From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961C516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:45:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86B843D99 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:45:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300DQEGSHAT@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j470jjHn005041; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:45 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j470jitg005040; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:44 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:44 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: Paul Schmehl Message-id: <20050507004544.GD3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:45:55 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:53:16PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, May 06, 2005 08:48:14 PM +0200 Anthony Atkielski > wrote: > > > >>So, if I *respond* to one of his posts (including his email address and > >>at least a portion of what he wrote) and therefore have *some* of his > >>"copyrighted" material in my post then he can request that *my* post be > >>removed *without* my permission? > > > >Not if your backquoting falls within the scope of "fair use," > > Here's a webpage that makes your arguments laughable: > > > It's a mailing list to discuss digital copyright. Its archives are > searchable, and there's no requirement to agree to that when you subscribe. So a site about copyrigth can not break the law? Just because something happens doesn't mean this is legal. > This one is even funnier: > > > Searchable archives going back to 1997. Same remark as above. > You *still* haven't provided *one* link to prove anything you've said. On > the Internet, that's tantamount to an admission that you're blowing smoke. So have you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.google.com/search?q=BERNE+CONVENTION&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 He is legaly prity much correct in everything I have read. It basicly comes down to this: You have copyrigth over everything you write. This requires that one need to agree to a licence before others can freely copy this to there sites. > I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright would > hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I > have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule in your favor. > After all, judges make incredibly stupid rulings daily. But in the end, > your argument would fall on deaf ears when saner minds were engaged. > > When you post to a public list, your post are not copyrighted material. > They exist in the public domain. And *this* list *is* a public forum. This is only true if the author agrees to this. This is way shrink wrap licences exist. One can not clain the didn't knew about this. They clearly had to posibilty to do so before accepting the deal. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/