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Date:      Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:22:52 +0200
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh drivers.conf
Message-ID:  <20021109102252.GB83098@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021108114354.M24193-100000@wonky.feral.com>
References:  <20021108145133.GA72027@sunbay.com> <20021108114354.M24193-100000@wonky.feral.com>

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On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:05:52PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> > UFS_DIRHASH and MSDOSFS were already deleted; these are now duplicates.
> > >   COMPAT_FREEBSD4 had to come back, maxusers is down to 2.
> > >
> > Why COMPAT_FREEBSD4 is being put back?  Isn't it COMPAT_43, as document=
ed
> > in kern_sig.c, that is needed for longjmp(3) to work on Alphas?
>=20
> I was told COMPAT_FREEBSD4.
>=20
Last time it came up (it was Drew), he wasn't so sure about this.
Can anyone with a real hardware confirm this?

> In any case, just removing COMPAT_FREEBSD4 is bogus because kern_sig
> won't compile until you add NO_COMPAT_FREEBSD4.
>=20
My changes removed COMPAT_FREEBSD4 from and added NO_COMPAT_FREEBSD4
to BOOTMFS.

> > >   AHC is out until somebody can make it a module for alpha.
> > >
> > It was so since November 3rd.  Are you testing with old sources?
>=20
> No- I was keeping fairly up to date. But I wasn't checking all of the
> other changes as they came in.
>=20
> I see that there is *something* now. When I've proven to myself that
> it'll actually work, I'll put it on the driver disk.
>=20
OK, thanks.

> > You also seem to have removed the tun(4) and ch(4) drivers, without
> > mentioning.  Was this on purpose, or by accident?  (i386 version
> > sucks from removing tun(4) too.)  This in essence makes the ppp(8)
> > pretty useless, since tun(4) is not available as the module either.
> >
> > +       -e '/tun.*unnel/d' \
> > +       -e '/ch.*media/d' \
>=20
> Well - I didn't know ppp was an option- guess it is. That'll go back on
> floppy 3.
>=20
> Which media changer device do *you* know about that's required for
> installing FreeBSD-alpha *from the floppy set*?
>=20
My main concern about ch(4) is that it got removed without mentioning
in the commit log.  And I just wanted to make sure it was done on
purpose.

> > >   I'm sure we'll have to do some further changes prior to release.
> > >
> > >   NB: Not tested end to end yet because I've been told that sysinstall
> > >   doesn't yet work.
> > >
> > >   Revision  Changes    Path
> > >   1.59      +22 -4     src/release/alpha/dokern.sh
> > >   1.9       +11 -7     src/release/alpha/drivers.conf
> >
> > More problems.  In drivers.conf, miibus and dc are now duplicated.
> > mpt is now removed by dokern.sh and you've removed the corresponding
> > line from drivers.conf -- the net effect is that mpt(4) is no longer
> > available as the module on the 2nd floppy.
>=20
> Yes, well, I notice that JHB added both isp && mpt as modules. But they
> haven't had any testing yet. When they actually are tested and shown to
> work, I'll do the right thing at least for mpt and add it back in.
>=20
Again, my main concern here is that the commit log didn't talk about
this at all.  If the reason was that they aren't tested, they should
have better be left "as is" anyway; otherwise, how are you going to
test it with a fresh install?  :-)

> > You also did not mention that isp(4) is now back in the kernel, which
> > is great.
>=20
> Well, it really needs to be until isp as module is proven to work.
>=20
> Generally speaking, the common drivers that would be needed in most
> cases *should* be statically compiled in. That would be sym, isp, if_de,
> miibus/if_dc. Unfortunately, they can't all fit.


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