From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 16:49:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E3BBDBB36; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F04813E3; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ip70-178-28-115.ks.ks.cox.net [70.178.28.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0443CD3; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:49:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: svn commit: r422114 - head/misc/fortune_strfile To: Kurt Jaeger , Mark Linimon References: <201609140545.u8E5jeBH058686@repo.freebsd.org> <40537f68-1d2b-194c-55d5-b133d743ed3e@marino.st> <20160914123128.GA32707@lonesome.com> <20160914164020.GD23634@fc.opsec.eu> Cc: Mathieu Arnold , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org From: John Marino Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7829a82e-7f83-33d1-54b5-fca53d072f4f@marino.st> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:49:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160914164020.GD23634@fc.opsec.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 160914-0, 09/14/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:49:57 -0000 On 9/14/2016 11:40, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > >> My own opinion is that 4814 is way too many. And, I don't buy the >> argument that some have made that "unmaintained ports are better >> maintained than some maintained ports". > > We have the data to go from opinion to knowledge by analyzing > the commit logs etc. Analyzing it is difficult, but maybe it helps > to find out where we stand. I don't think that's necessary to get the actual numbers. While it's clearly true that some unmaintained ports (aka maintained by ports@FreeBSD.org) are better maintained than a significant number of maintained ports, I think most people would agree having a maintainer is the best situation. In this particular case: 1) I don't maintain any fortune ports 2) I don't use any fortune ports 3) I don't care if all the fortune ports are deleted 4) The port is about as trivial as they come. I was only fixing a problem that I identified that should have been fixed long before. If there was a rule that said I had to maintain the port for 1-week or 1-month or even 6-months, then I'm just dropping the port the next day after the expiration period. It's better to give somebody that actually does care a chance to adopt it (the most likely being one of the fortune port maintainers). Finally, most of the games ports are intentionally unmaintained. Since strfile has its origin in games, I really didn't see a distinction with fortune_strfile and any of those games. John --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus