From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 12:35:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4221616A4E8 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:35:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thingy.apana.org.au (adsl-175.isp.net.au [202.1.119.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DD243D54 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from fun by thingy.apana.org.au with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CmWqv-0000vY-00; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:34:57 +1100 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:34:57 +1100 To: Paul Krill , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050106123456.GC2280@thingy.apana.org.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: David Gerard Subject: Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:35:27 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) [050106 06:29]: > It's of course quite legal for end users to download the JDK directly > from Sun and compile it on FreeBSD themselves and then use it. The main problem with this approach is that it requires a ridiculous amount of jumping through hoops - first you have to install the Linux compatibility interface and libraries (20 megabyte download and a reboot?), *then* the Linux version of Java (large download) because that's needed to run Sun conformance tests (you can only use Java to test Java), *then* the FreeBSD version. Assuming nothing breaks anywhere in the process. It's ridiculous hair-tearing stuff and led me to formulate: "Proprietary software isn't just evil, it's STUPID." (The Linux-compat bit wasn't such a strain for me personally, as my FreeBSD boxes are workstations and I run things like Firefox Linux nightly builds routinely. But for a server doing little other than Java, it's a large amount of cruft to no functional purpose.) - d.