From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 18:59:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DF1445; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F05A16EC; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h11so8219735wiv.2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VKk/q/UMLdKVutnUlb/vPiYGYqdtX4BkLn0rUy/LDQA=; b=q8OLSSIWNRLUNVrHJz85Z3HqeqzHonJwd0zDcFeaMrcJFrl8JA1JfehWy5uSLq1uur Favz1yg0XSTGz1X2cHUILveNWcidQ3M5Q9ftbu7ZnKD5QC6gii0jCEoKQNG6WcTyZTXE 7wL6xsfM8stR6SN1ZzXddk3qZ5ulhJSK81w/6WaIyEevPZLsLLtQKL9ctUe6z1SDuWmy W1thQADGqg4bphsGnZ3Ycf4RwDTmM0sSJshydSiaUvo5YjEupcrU6QKvp8Dfebf+0q3F FzbUHkixMq4blWPs5LcqkYL0EgkpMmCYahs/mzhZyvJVzbXqT5YDvVJqJkpafrHQ/xeJ tvRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.72.228 with SMTP id g4mr83857025wiv.22.1366829962739; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.58.138 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51777887.4000908@FreeBSD.org> References: <20130422051452.GA2148@icarus.home.lan> <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> <51777887.4000908@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:22 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1LMuEWk8vKotf_HZAhveQo-ZQJI Message-ID: Subject: Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing From: Adrian Chadd To: Matthias Andree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:59:24 -0000 I think this just outlines the problem - bootverbose is too verbose. eg, what the audio code outputs. And yes, net80211 when you're doing 11n. Adrian On 23 April 2013 23:15, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 23.04.2013 09:44, schrieb Alexander Motin: > >> Let me disagree. bootverbose keeps dmesg readable for average user, >> while quirks are specific driver workarounds and their names may confuse >> more then really help. If every driver print its quirks, dmesg would be >> two times bigger. There is bootverbose for it. > > quirks print hardware shortcomings that FreeBSD is working around, it is > useful both to reassure users that FreeBSD is aware of the issues as > well as give them a hint not to buy the same hardware if the quirks have > too severe an impact (like NCQ unusable). > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"