From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 5 3:34: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B899F37B405 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 03:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from angelfish.lewiz.org (dialup.212-50-180-211.karoo.KCOM.COM [212.50.180.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1C2943EC2 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 03:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lewiz@turtle.lewiz.org) Received: (qmail 81445 invoked by uid 85); 5 Jan 2003 11:33:40 -0000 Received: from lewiz@turtle.lewiz.org by angelfish by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (sophie: 2.10/3.62. spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:SA:0(-3.7/5.0):. Processed in 2.216975 secs); 05 Jan 2003 11:33:40 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 Received: from turtle.lewiz.org (192.168.0.9) by angelfish.lewiz.org with SMTP; 5 Jan 2003 11:33:36 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 50108 invoked by uid 1001); Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:34:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:34:03 +0000 From: lewiz To: richard childers / kg6hac Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Working around problems when an NFS server dies / is unavailable. Message-ID: <20030105113403.GE48290@lewiz.org> Mail-Followup-To: lewiz , richard childers / kg6hac , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-questions References: <20030105001254.GA48290@lewiz.org> <3E1781E0.20D76CB8@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZRyEpB+iJ+qUx0kp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E1781E0.20D76CB8@pacbell.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.westwood.karoo.net/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZRyEpB+iJ+qUx0kp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 04:52:48PM -0800, richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > I seem to recall a 'nomount' option in fstab(5), the manual page that > describes the contents of the /etc/fstab ('filesystem table') file. >=20 > That plus amd(8) should, in theory, get you a relatively stateless NFS > connection. I must admit, I've never worked with amd but it may be worth a try -- it can't be any worse than the situation I'm in at the moment. Thanks for bringing it to my attention ;) > I've had some success using 'umount -f' to forcibly umount NFS filesystem= s, > from the client side, in the past. This surprised me. I had assumed a forced umount would actually force the umount, yet, it seems not to have done. I am confuzed as to what is and what isn't a bug (often I'm screwing things up myself, I'm sure). Do you think this would count as a bug? If other people have had problems too, it almost suggests it might be. > However, NFS, while stateless in intent, is really not a good > infrastructural element for a plug-and-play network. Plugging in is easy; > unplugging may require an explicit shutdown to properly deallocate > resources. Yeah, I'm starting to learn this now. I don't really know what else to use. I've heard of CODA and even AFS but I don't know their suitability to my purpose. I think I might do a bit more research then ask again on this list. Thanks for your information, I'll go read about amd ;) -lewiz. --=20 All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --|| url: http://lewiz.info/ | http://www.westwood.karoo.net/pgpkey ||-- --ZRyEpB+iJ+qUx0kp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+GBgrItq0KFQv7T8RAqf8AJ4tER/9ipTa7Juecsv1jn8woqK3WwCgmwKb zDavIMAJYcr/2m9eAH5YaGM= =Acyb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZRyEpB+iJ+qUx0kp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message