From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 5 11:35:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03788 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03777 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:34:59 -0400 Received: from auke.deboer (ld19-097.lon.compuserve.com [195.232.11.97]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with ESMTP id OAA04691 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmach (bmach.deboer [192.168.33.3]) by auke.deboer (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA14499 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:57:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:57:31 +0200 Message-ID: <01BDC0AB.47DC9160.berend@pobox.com> From: Berend de Boer To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Install *actually* friendly Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:57:29 +0200 Organization: NederWare X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, August 05, 1998 4:23 AM, Vince Vielhaber [SMTP:vev@michvhf.com] wrote: > RealPlayer's support staff told me the reason they haven't released anything > for FreeBSD beyond 3.0 is that there's no demand for it. How many people Hmm, I remember asking RealPlayer support for a FreeBSD version probably 10 year ago. I've not heard anything of them for about 6 months. Then they did send a mail that they had email support problems and they didn't know what was tracked/handled and not, so if one could please resend the problem if it still did matter... So I'm quite unsure they could say there is no demand for it. They don't have the figures. > versions of these packages won't run under FreeBSD? How many people have we > lost to improper hardware detection (legal or not)? I don't wanna see FreeBSD Tja, if you have installed lots more OS's than FreeBSD, the M$ have their share of hardware detection problems too. Besides, FreeBSD quite clearly lists their supported hardware. > then are a good example of what I'm typing about. Why should the poor user > be made to suffer 'cuze it's assumed (either right or wrong) that most people > disable the floppy in BIOS? At the very extreme, ASK THE USER don't decide > for him/her! Is FreeBSD for the poor user? I greatly doubt that. FreeBSD is for people who have to do real work. So can effort some time to setup things. For a game machine you have quite different requirements. I really like the visual boot editor, but probably an ordinary user doesn't even want to make sense of it. This is not to say that an easier install or shell could be developed for FreeBSD, but that's quite different. Groetjes, Berend. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message