From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 20:35:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E698BBA10F0; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFA031ECD; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from ralph.baldwin.cx (c-73-231-226-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.226.104]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8862FB946; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nathan Whitehorn Cc: Andrew Turner , Michal Meloun , Svatopluk Kraus , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r301453 - in head/sys: arm/arm arm64/arm64 dev/fdt dev/gpio dev/iicbus dev/ofw dev/pci dev/vnic kern mips/mips sys Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:19:32 -0700 Message-ID: <2764416.DJT1n7EiEe@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.3-STABLE; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <03bcc081-5b93-c2ba-4e9b-e51d0b2e773a@freebsd.org> References: <201606051620.u55GKD5S066398@repo.freebsd.org> <13301107.Hm25rxUxW2@ralph.baldwin.cx> <03bcc081-5b93-c2ba-4e9b-e51d0b2e773a@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:35:26 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:35:28 -0000 On Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:51:20 PM Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > On 07/21/16 14:35, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday, July 21, 2016 01:37:42 PM Andrew Turner wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:28:53 +0200 > >> Michal Meloun wrote: > >>> Dne 19.07.2016 v 17:06 Nathan Whitehorn napsal(a): > >>>> 2. It partially duplicates the functionality of OFW_BUS_MAP_INTR(), > >>>> but is both problematically more general and less flexible (it has > >>>> requirements on timing of PIC attachment vs. driver resource > >>>> allocation) > >>> OFW_BUS_MAP_INTR() can parse only OFW based data and expect that > >>> parsed data are magicaly stored within the call. > >>> The new method, bus_map_intr(), can parse data from multiple sources > >>> (OFW, UEFI / ACPI, synthetic[gpio device + pin number]). It also > >>> returns parsed data back to caller. > >>> And no, it doesn't add any additional timing requirements . > >> I've been looking at ACPI on arm64. So far I have not found the need > >> for this with ACPI as we don't need to send the data to the interrupt > >> controller driver to be parsed in the way OFW/FDT needs to. > > ACPI though has a gross hack where we call BUS_CONFIG_INTR on the IRQ > > in bus_alloc_resource(). > > I hadn't realized that. It looks like you could do essentially the same > thing we do on PowerPC to clean this up by explicitly mapping the ACPI > interrupt domains to different PICs with varying default interrupt > properties. > > > What I had advocated in the discussions > > leading up to this was to have some sort of opaque structure containing > > a set of properties (the sort of thing bus_map_resource and make_dev_s > > use) that was passed up at bus_setup_intr() time. > > > I think it should now > > be passed up at bus_alloc_resource() time instead, but it would allow bus > > drivers to "decorate" a SYS_RES_IRQ request as it goes up the device tree > > with properties that the interrupt controller can then associate with > > the IRQ cookie it allocates in its own code. > > > We used to do this on PPC and MIPS, and the current code still supports > it, but it turned out not to be useful in the end for IRQs. The > hierarchy for IRQs rarely (read: almost never) follows the bus hierarchy > and often is enumerated in a different order. I have hardware, for > example, where the children of a single parent bus are all wired to > different interrupt controllers and sometimes to a mixture of interrupt > controllers. Those controllers are cascaded in ways that cross the > newbus tree laterally and, on some of them, the parent device from the > bus topology has interrupts handled by its own (bus) children. Trying to > make the newbus parents do something sensible with all of this would be > crazy and, in the case where parents depend on resources provided by > their own children, impossible. > > This is all to say that, since you want the interrupts to be decorated > along a path that usually has nothing to do with the newbus hierarchy, > it doesn't add much to add extra features to resource allocation. > ofw_bus_map_intr() is a newbus method to support this kind of thing but, > on all supported platforms, it is implemented only in nexus and no cases > have appeared where anyone ever wanted anything at the intermediate layers. Mmm. Another idea that has been bandied about is to create a separate "plane" in new-bus for an interrupt hierarchy and allow devices to have "interrupt" parents that are not the same as the "bus" parent. (Additional planes for power and clocks might also make sense.) The idea is borrowed from IOKit on Darwin which has multiple planes. The "bus" plane is always fully populated, but the other planes (Darwin has one for power for example) can be sparse. ACPI has methods that effectively describe the power plane on x86. -- John Baldwin