From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun Apr 19 19:56:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F442A831A; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4950vC4rKPz3NrQ; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id QG2rjFX6T62brQG2ujKDT2; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:56:05 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=LKf9vKe9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cl8xLZFz6L8A:10 a=7ASnObcnAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=qXlbvJYPZq5jwDjV0qwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=a0pkbRptYPMA:10 a=pj5rz7AvTRnaHDIeLm0D:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 377E6279; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03JJu1lu005677; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 03JJu0vL005674; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <202004191956.03JJu0vL005674@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Emmanuel Vadot cc: cy@freebsd.org, cem@freebsd.org, src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Subject: Re: svn commit: r360102 - in head: libexec/rc/rc.d share/mk tools/build/mk In-reply-to: <20200419213718.8c44dced2c4f67c8544f2434@bidouilliste.com> References: <202004191701.03JH1LFA002938@repo.freebsd.org> <20200419213718.8c44dced2c4f67c8544f2434@bidouilliste.com> Comments: In-reply-to Emmanuel Vadot message dated "Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:37:18 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:56:00 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLx+BQm1gy1qCt18BzQmoZM3gG12ZHOzGDDJPbq0vLPbsjPff4o1UoUIS/i/kB+uS2zqhZtPWZYvszbpngP7SsgWQGMzaz54Zl3eFBhaDXK7m+OTxwH/ gzDBrBqMAHOnnNJMs5jzVwPf0/yMZEy80rY+eMI5D1cKbDQFE03Y+idAU2ULGjvXGNAFB+Bwo7+c8LHC2fqOiwA1HfhkTqdVjJ7XFoyqssTOqCXJBev9/BMm edQ1dX/4KlZXVtI1zGocnnvLCGN6nTOk3DvRhuxPSubtzoCKoRAlgyl5xbFJi7tmVzWfO/3y5uE+vr/Ohh9AmM7JMzP9I/K3b+0gng+FCpv8TgYKDw1N6jTO +6PVfTiM X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4950vC4rKPz3NrQ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com has no SPF policy when checking 64.59.134.9) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.23 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[9.134.59.64.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-6.72), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.28), asn: 6327(-2.56), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[9.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:56:08 -0000 In message <20200419213718.8c44dced2c4f67c8544f2434@bidouilliste.com>, Emmanuel Vadot writes: > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:16:34 -0700 > Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > Hm, some of us just want kerberos to be completed excised. This > > change makes WITHOUT_KERBEROS retain portions of kerberos? That seems > > unfortunate. > > Agreed, > It would be better to default MK_KERBEROS_SCRIPTS to yes and > explicitly setting it to no when WITHOUT_KERBEROS=yes. One could then > do WITHOUT_KERBEROS=yes and MK_KERBEROS_SCRIPTS=yes for such weird > install. > BTW, why would one want base script for ports utilities ? Couldn't the > ports install some rc scripts with same functionnality as the base one ? IMO that should be a separate port. In regard to removing kerberos from base entirely. The original suggestion by pfg@ to replace Heimdal in base (and taken up by myself), was met with significant resistance from a person. The current plan is to make Heimdal private, for now, when I get the cycles. I would like to see the removal of Heimdal from base some day, either replacing it with MIT or entirely (relying on ports only). Pkgbase may make it politically palatable, providing the ability to move forward toward this goal. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.