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Date:      Thu, 4 Oct 2018 10:21:08 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        michelle@sorbs.net
Cc:        tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org,  FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfrMbD1U0u-3WQJYnoyyZitJKQo5CnBTeZVbZ2ONjt20pQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 10:15 AM Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
wrote:

> tech-lists wrote:
> >
> > I'm astonished you're considering removing rl given how common it is.
> >
>
> I'll second that comment - though no disrespect to Brooks.  Brooks as
> far as I can see is just the messenger.
>

Absent good data, one has to make one's best guesses. I guessed wrong here
in my comments to Brooks about which ones were must keeps. I knew it was
popular back in the day (~2000), but had thought it's popularity had waned
much more than it apparently has. I last deployed systems with rl in them
around 2007, and at the time it was trailing edge gear (the SBCs we used at
Timing Solutions tended to use popular, but ~5-year-old technology because
that market segment wanted longevity of spare availability...).

Warner



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