From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 20:12:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611381065678; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F108FC16; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so879958obc.13 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L0BerlRVZy5xaQekDZm7D0iRB7UmHurpfrx2S5gsm6Y=; b=plUUD8BXxpgeHWWMv4Sr/+WWiKk7PWQxrd7BBbKzImNLSoxpOgOoqtgCwOOMzcMxfN PCf2TmlLgJzpweD6IF+7rZFo53iy5Okzq2MESt15VpEm/B0ja5LhVDQ8DfczeP82S1Fp 3PDxfjjUhlgyNOn4sKXaQpyyuzfzHDioIn5nz1BlqNRspoPGJSM8r+nAOCcZ5BD2wHrF 6eAWzfzkCP5XGxkgLM9sCKMQUD3V2q29di81jjddizZ4zlap/Nk9qAqA+wvBsfLfMILL wnmPQOYNBmvXQ7JNJAvZpZeo5GwCuHRU8dWmYk+6xNnOzsbmv+ZkNUjhx+pvjt2lPsL0 XwoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.117.71 with SMTP id kc7mr19340951obb.62.1340136774359; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.98.77 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> References: <20120615124849.GI96212@ass.kameli.org> <20120618081140.GK96212@ass.kameli.org> <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:12:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Richard Yao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Doug Barton , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Vincent Hoffman , Nathan Whitehorn , Outback Dingo , openrc@gentoo.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?= Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:12:55 -0000 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 06/19/2012 12:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 6/18/2012 4:05 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> Doug, we already have OpenRC implemented. You can install Gentoo FreeBS= D >>> in a jail, install regular FreeBSD in another jail and do your own >>> performance comparisons. >> >> Bzzzzzzzzt! Thanks for playing. :) =A0You're the one proposing the chang= e, >> YOU get to do the performance comparisons. If you want a rough idea of >> what I personally would consider to be a robust test, don't hesitate to >> ask. I'm sure others would have ideas as well. > > Would you elaborate on what you consider to be a robust test? I really > have no idea. It might be an ok smoke test, but it's hardly a realistic test/comparison as the pseudo startup for a jail and a real system aren't close to being the same (this is in part because of how jails function). Thanks, -Garrett