From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 27 16: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3581537B422 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02864; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:53:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAAcayJf; Fri Apr 27 15:53:10 2001 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13891; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:10:47 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200104272310.QAA13891@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: hotmail converted from freeBSD To: mwm@mired.org (Mike Meyer) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:10:47 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), herveyw@dynamic-cast.com (Hervey Wilson), markgiglio@yahoo.com (Mark Giglio), chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15081.63562.908112.407519@guru.mired.org> from "Mike Meyer" at Apr 27, 2001 05:52:58 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Not to be unkind, but I think that the reference book on Windows > > and threads that you have been quoting is probably no good. If > > nothing else, you should probably not trust it enough to influence > > your posts on public mailing lists. Experience is a better teacher, > > second only to the horse's mouth. > > It's not a book, it's a paper from MicroSoft on writing servers for > NT. I don't trust it - some of the assumptions didn't mesh with my > experience writing multithreaded servers on other platforms. That's > why I asked about it on -chat - I wanted to know if MS's documentation > was up the level of their software. I appreciate your verification > that the authors assumptions were indeed bogus. The white paper that > MS published on migrating Hotmail from FreeBSD to W2K makes these same > assumptions, which is where this thread started. The problem with these white papers, and most of Microsoft's code, is that the people who Know What They Are Doing are off doing much more interesting work than migrating legacy applications systems from where they used to run, to Microsoft platforms. > Since we're discussing proper behavior on public mailing lists, I'd > suggest you read documents before critizing them publicly. The thing > about the horses mouth, you know. I don't have to read the paper to know that, if it said what you said it said; I just need to know it's wrong. 8-). I got my information from the VIPER Technology Preview for IIS, and the authors of the OS, at a meeting in Redmond Washington, so I consider them to be more autoritative than hacks working on legacy code because they don't rate more interesting work. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message