From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 25 07:18:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F5716A402; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rermilov@team.vega.ru) Received: from mail.vega.ru (infra.dev.vega.ru [90.156.167.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227613C44B; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rermilov@team.vega.ru) Received: from [87.242.97.68] (port=57052 helo=edoofus.dev.vega.ru) by mail.vega.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JTXbY-000C9j-HM; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:18:28 +0000 Received: from edoofus.dev.vega.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edoofus.dev.vega.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1P7IQ5B044291; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:18:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from rermilov@team.vega.ru) Received: (from ru@localhost) by edoofus.dev.vega.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1P7IPCo044290; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:18:25 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from rermilov@team.vega.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: edoofus.dev.vega.ru: ru set sender to rermilov@team.vega.ru using -f Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:18:25 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: obrien@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , Joseph Koshy , current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080225071825.GE18096@team.vega.ru> References: <20080222124617.GA16580@team.vega.ru> <86wsoxp2ob.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080223201808.GB65540@team.vega.ru> <20080224180433.GA21162@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224190637.GB18096@team.vega.ru> <20080224193221.GA25526@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224194358.GC18096@team.vega.ru> <20080224205121.GB27938@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224212642.GA15362@plan0.kaiwan.csbnet.se> <20080224213434.GA29077@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080224213434.GA29077@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] ar(1) front-end committed. (notes for cross compile) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:18:31 -0000 On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 01:34:34PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:26:42PM +0100, Kai Wang wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:51:21PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > > What is the thing you're checking the value 700044 for? > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html > > > 700044 > > > 7.0-CURRENT after changing the argument for vn_open()/VOP_OPEN() > > > from filedescriptor index to the struct file *. > > > 700045 > > > 7.0-CURRENT after changing pam_nologin(8) to provide an account > > > management function instead of an authentication function to the > > > PAM framework. > > > > I guess, probably des@ meant that: libarchive 2.2.3 (committed > > at May 29 2007) included the last major fix to the 'ar' support, > > and 700044 (though not specific to this) bumped at Jun 7 2007 > > is closest to that day? > > If that is the case - this web page should be updated with that > information. It is find to go back after the fact and note that a > particular version number represents more than one thing. > We've been traditionally (ab)using __FreeBSD_version to bootstrap things in this way, without necessarily bumping __FreeBSD_version. There are two reasons: 1) we often don't know if a particular bug or change affects bootstrapping, so we don't always bump it. For example, a change in libc may cause some utility to be put to the list of bootstrap-tools, and we don't discover it until the version is bumped for another reason. 2) there's no harm in bootstrapping more than necessary. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer