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Date:      Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:43:08 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Cynic <cynic@mail.cz>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: config for POP3 mail
Message-ID:  <20010614194232.R5507-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010615003953.03f5cba8@mail.cz>

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I use sendmail for outgoing mail.  I have all my workstations relay
through my mail server which also runs sendmail.

Joe Clarke

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:

> Right, you summarized what I've sent in reply to Doug Young.
> What other choices do I have with regard to outgoing mail
> besides sendmail? Or rather... What is the best tool for this
> particular task?
>
> At 00:15 15.6. 2001, Joe Clarke wrote the following:
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >You really want a few applications here.  fetchmail will collect mail from
> >multiple servers, and queue it to your local MTA for delivery.  This way,
> >you can filter the mail as it's delivered on your system.  For reading
> >your mail once it's on your local box, you can use any MUA (I like Pine,
> >but mutt is also cool, and there are tons of other MUAs for UNIX).
> >
> >For notification, I like xbuffy or gbuffy (both in /usr/ports/mail).  Both
> >can check for mail in multiple mail boxes on a local system, but gbuffy
> >also has the ability to use POP and IMAP to check for mail.
> >
> >Admittedly, I use sendmail on all my machines, so mileage may vary with
> >other MTAs.
> >
> >Joe Clarke
> >
> >On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the info.
> >>
> >> Yeah, I've heard fetchmail is very flexible, but I've also heard
> >> it's pretty complicated. I'd like to try getmail if it can do what
> >> I need.
> >>
> >> IMAP isn't an option for me, that means Pine is out of question...
> >> Unless I use something else to collect mail off the POP3 servers,
> >> and use Pine on my local mailbox/maildir, I guess.
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a solution that will:
> >> 1) collect my mail from several (actually, it's three) POP3 accounts
> >> 2) filter it upon retrieval
> >> 3) let me know that I have new mail (message sent to the console)
> >>
> >> I understand that getmail can do 1 and 2 for me, and I can use pretty
> >> much any MUA to read, etc. my mail. Since all of my mail is POP3-based,
> >> I'll need something to send outgoing mail to my SMTP servers, right?
> >> Like sendmail, right?
> >>
> >> As for connection: both LAN (at work) and dialup (at home).
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >>
> >> At 23:24 14.6. 2001, Joe Clarke wrote the following:
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >If your MUA supports POP, then that will transfer mail from your mail
> >> >server to your local machine.  A dedicated MTA is not needed for this.
> >> >
> >> >The way I do it is use pine to check email on an IMAP server. I have
> >> >filters setup on the mail server to filter my mail from freebsd-*
> >> >appropriately.  Pine then knows how to check the multiple mailboxes.
> >> >
> >> >I have also used /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail in the past to pull email off
> >> >of a POP3 server, and deliver it locally.  fetchmail is _very_
> >> >configurable, and works well for dialup connections.
> >> >
> >> >I guess it depends on your connection to your mail server as to what
> >> >method you'll prefer.  If you have a on-demand link, the fetchmail
> >> >alternative might be the way to go.  If you have a dedicated connection,
> >> >using IMAP or POP right out of your MUA would save you the extra setup
> >> >hassle.
> >> >
> >> >Joe Clarke
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi there,
> >> >>
> >> >> coming from the NT world, I'm a bit baffled by the unix
> >> >> distinction of MUA's / MTA's. So, if someone can kindly
> >> >> confirm (or explain if I'm wrong) a few things, I'll be more
> >> >> than happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I get this right, one can use a MUA (like mutt, pine, etc)
> >> >> to read mail on their IMAP server, or in their local mailbox.
> >> >> If one has a POP3 account, they'll need an MTA to deliver
> >> >> mail from their POP3 server to their workstation (or, local
> >> >> mailbox), where it can be read using an MUA. Same with
> >> >> sending mail -- if you have an IMAP account, you're off with
> >> >> just an MUA, but need an MTA with a POP3 one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Right or wrong? :)
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm ignoring the setup of the server, here, the frebsd machine
> >> >> is just a workstation, where I want to be able to handle my
> >> >> email just like in windoze.
> >> >>
> >> >> Basically, I would very much welcome a link to an explanation
> >> >> of this stuff for a win32 user. Seems like this is an area
> >> >> where the terms I'm used to don't translate easily. (what the
> >> >> heck is multidrop? :) I guess this confusion mostly comes from
> >> >> the fact that while win32 mail software uses the kitchen-sink
> >> >> approach (one app fetches, sends, views, filters into folders,
> >> >> and notices you of new mail), unices make mail no exception to
> >> >> their set-of-specialized-tools attitude.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, if you can recommend a setup... I recieve ~200 messages
> >> >> a day mainly from several busy mailing lists. Seems like I could
> >> >> use e. g. getmail to fetch email and sort it into folders upon
> >> >> retrieval, right?
> >> >>
> >> >> TIA
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> cynic@mail.cz
> >> >> -------------
> >> >> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
> >> >> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
> >> >>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >> cynic@mail.cz
> >> -------------
> >> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
> >> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
> >>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------end of quote------
>
>
> cynic@mail.cz
> -------------
> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
>
>
>


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