From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 00:36:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DAD37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop018.verizon.net (pop018pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DA643FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mtm@identd.net) Received: from kokeb.ambesa.net ([138.88.3.138]) by pop018.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030408073633.VFPY1699.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net>; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:36:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 03:36:32 -0400 From: Mike Makonnen To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav In-Reply-To: References: <30340.1049663478@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop018.verizon.net from [138.88.3.138] at Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:36:33 -0500 Message-Id: <20030408073633.VFPY1699.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> cc: arch@FreeBSD.org cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: Add timecounter option to rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 07:36:35 -0000 On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:49:50 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: > > I on the other hand think that by now /etc/rc.conf has so many knobs > > and handles that it is practically impossible to figure out how to > > do anything without resorting to "less /etc/rc.*" to figure it out :-( > > 'man rc.conf' should hopefully be reasonably up to date, and > /etc/defaults/rc.conf briefly documents most of the knobs. The main > problem is that there are knobs which aren't listed in either of these > and which I suspect even most committers never knew existed, because > our rc.d scripts were imported wholesale from NetBSD with some but > IMHO not enough adaptation. Differences between NetBSD and FreeBSD > should have been viewed as an opportunity to improve both, but instead > the scripts were "dumbed down" to provide very little beyond what > already existed in FreeBSD. Please check the archives for the reasons. Having said that, more work is forthcomming. > Currently, ntpdate gets its server list from the ntpdate_hosts > variable, or from ntp.conf if ntpdate_hosts is empty. None of this is > documented, because it came from NetBSD with rcNG. Previously, we had > to list servers in ntpdate_flags; I bet a lot of people still do, > unaware that the servers listed in ntp.conf will be appended to this > list. They aren't documented because we don't use them. There are two paths in the rc.d/ntpdate script: one for FreeBSD and one for NetBSD. The FreeBSD path is the same as in the old rc. Cheers. -- Mike Makonnen | GPG-KEY: http://www.identd.net/~mtm/mtm.asc mtm@identd.net | D228 1A6F C64E 120A A1C9 A3AA DAE1 E2AF DBCC 68B9 mtm@FreeBSD.Org| FreeBSD - The Power To Serve