From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 5 1:31:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tripos.com (gatekeeper.tripos.com [192.160.145.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BECE37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scoles@tripos.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tripos.com (8.8.8+Sun) id DAA13381 for <@firewall.tripos.com:freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from elara.tripos.com(172.20.5.15) by gatekeeper.tripos.com via smap (V5.5) id xma013287; Tue, 5 Jun 01 03:28:11 -0500 Received: from wolf ([172.20.152.158]) by tripos.com (980919.SGI.STAND) via SMTP id DAA66791 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:28:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Steve Coles" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: RE: Problems with 3COM 3C509 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:28:10 +0100 Message-ID: <011201c0ed99$745d1390$9e9814ac@wolf.tripos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FWIW: My experience with these cards under FreeBSD has been considerably more favourable than under MS operating systems. Most problems I have seen seem to result from BIOS:NIC interaction rather than the FreeBSD driver. I have these NICs working in PnP and wired-down mode under 4.3 - however, I have had less problems using IRQ10 as on my cheap PCChips MOBOs there seem to be uncooperative isa sound devices silently grabbing IRQ 5. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Gerhard Sittig > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:25 AM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with 3COM 3C509 > > > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 21:05 +0200, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > > On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Alson van der Meulen wrote: > > > > > > I have problems installing 4.3-* on a machine with a 3COM > > > > 3C509 card (built in on ISA). After some trials and errors > > > > I've come to the conclusion that I need to give the port > > > > address, but the device is not available to setting at boot > > > > time (of installation). > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > try boot -c, then you should be able to modify the iobase, > > > irq and stuff of the ep0 device > > > > The GENERIC kernel has support for ep, but it is strangely > > enough not availble for setting. It is just not there. I do not > > understand why. > > With (modern only? have there been cards not participating in > this mechanism?) 3com ISA cards usually there's _no_need_ to set > drivers to anything. AFAIK they have some identification port at > 0x110 where their configuration can be read from and written to. > Guess where the 3c5x9cfg gets the data from. :) > > >From personal experience I would check these points: > - Make sure you turn off the card's PnP function (and do remember > to power down the machine after throwing the switch -- I've > seen people hunting problems for hours when they thought C-A-D > warmboots would do ...) > - Make sure your port 0x110 is available -- i.e. don't put other > hardware at, say, 0x100 when its window is 0x20 bytes wide. I > once had the problem that a 3c509 wasn't recognized correctly > (or didn't work? don't know any longer) when I had a PnP ISDN > card between 0x100 and 0x11f. Moving it to 0x140 worked fine > -- I learned to love the isapnp tools (it was a Linux system)! > > > When I tried 3.5.1 it was available for adjustment, and then it > > work fine when I set it to IRQ 10 and port 0x250. 4.3 thought > > it was 5 and 0x210 respectively > > Well, as long as the driver "downloads" its assumed configuration > into the card, *any* setup should work. Only when the driver > assumes one configuration, doesn't tell the card about it, but > still doesn't match the card's idea -- that's when things go > wrong. So it depends on what the driver tells the card in the > initialization phase. And whether communication via the > identification port 0x110 is possible and works. > > > virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 > Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net > -- > If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above > ask your parents or an adult to help you. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message