From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 18 10:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E9237B406 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjt@cisco.com) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06184; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id NAA01698; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:17:23 -0400 From: Steve Tremblett To: Matthew Hagerty Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone see todays Wall Street Journal article: Microsoft Using Free Software (or something to that effect) Message-ID: <20010618131723.J29529@sjt-u10.cisco.com> References: <200106181614.f5IGEET14658@earth.backplane.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010618123930.0398aba0@pop.voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010618123930.0398aba0@pop.voyager.net>; from mhagerty@voyager.net on Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:43:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +---- Matthew Hagerty wrote: | As I understand the BSD license anyone can use it, however, they must say | that they are using it, no? So if MS is using TCP/IP code (or any other | code from FreeBSD), are they not in violation of the license by not | including such a clause in their license or documentation? What am I | missing here? You are missing the fact that MS presents to the public the concept of open source licenses having a viral nature and open source projects being insecure. They use the term "open source", while actually implying GPL, while the "insecure" thing is outright false - based on the number of reported bugs (which is contradictory, since they are bugs being found and fixed by a HUGE userbase that has access to the code, while you have to rely on MS's relatively tiny test team to do the same thing on their products...). The general effect is that people who don't know any better (ie. corporate types) instruct their IT people to remove all open source OSes from their infrastructure and don't use any in future development projects. -- Steve Tremblett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message