From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 8 15:36:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n66.san.rr.com (dt011n66.san.rr.com [204.210.13.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB94D14F6B for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n66.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA82475; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37FE71EE.E0CADCC4@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 15:36:30 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0927 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Joseph Scott , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Targeting the server: Not such a good idea? References: <4.2.0.58.19991008143949.043f2a30@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19991008083634.044de740@localhost> <37FE3827.A45735D8@owp.csus.edu> <4.2.0.58.19991008143949.043f2a30@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19991008155827.0443c960@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass wrote: > > At 04:38 PM 10/8/99 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > >And someone in that then-grown pool will care about the desktop in a > >personal way, and will work to improve it, and solve the problem. > >Right now, nobody (or very few people) take the desktop personally, so > >nothing will get done because nobody cares enough to do it. 'Because it > >has to be done' is nowhere near as big an incentive as 'I want to do > >this'. > > Well, I WANT TO DO THIS. That's one of the reasons I'm waiting with bated > breath for Jordan to grant me permission to use the name "FreeBSD" on a > new distribution. Once I have this permission, I can generate the income > to fund the effort -- and donate a whole lot of code back to the project. Before we start yet another "Brett Glass Vaporware, Inc." thread, please at least be honest about what's happening, and stop trying to paint Jordan as the bad guy here. The decision is not Jordan's alone, and the name is not the only thing holding your alleged project up. If it is, your lack of sufficiently astute legal counsel has already doomed your efforts before you start. Personally I hope that no one grants you the right to use the name FreeBSD. At the same time if you can manage to make a commercially successful desktop environment based on freebsd code I say more power to you. I think that there _is_ a desktop market for freebsd, and I think Terry made some good points in his comments. Doug -- "Stop it, I'm gettin' misty." - Mel Gibson as Porter, "Payback" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message