From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 22:07:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0521016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:07:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4E743D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:07:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238603A73E4; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 74816-03; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:06:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D767A3A73CE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:06:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CC2C662896; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:06:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <09c601c4bd3a$71dcdff0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: , References: <54.35f18d2e.2eb2b792@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:06:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:07:03 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Re: dummynet > In a message dated 10/28/04 12:52:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > james@tunasafedolphin.org writes: > >>Funny, I thought that's what Dummynet did. It seems that you wouldn't > >want to steer a user into a horribly overpriced closed-source > >rate-limiting solutuion when it's available for free in the OS. > > >BTW: Nice email addr. ;) > ---------------------------- > Ah, but its not really "available" for free, because the free ones don't work > well, aren't supported and don't scale. Plus it seems that unless you > value your time at $2./hr its already cost you more than the $800. to try to > use the "free" stuff. Are you planning on completely rewriting it yourself > using dummynet as the code base? What good is open source if > the entire code base is nowhere near as good as what you can buy? > You would really struggle with an inadequate open source solution > rather than pay for something that works? > > TM I'm just curious to know if you're ever actually looked at the hardware options to see what OS they function on. I think you'd be surprised to find that many of the more popular ones, are running on some flavor of either BSD or Linux. On the support issue, dummynet is supported by it's developer, Luigi Rizzo and he literally begs you to contact him directly if you locate a bug in the subsystem, need some questions answered and even offers his support under contract if you prefer. "3. Support If you have found some bug, please report it to me by email, but don't forget to include information on which version of FreeBSD and dummynet you are using, your rules (ipfw show; ipfw pipe show), your configuration (bridge or router) etc. If you have a simple question, again just email me and i generally try to reply as soon as possible. Again, please supply details! For more complex things (like "i have no time to learn how to use it, i just want this work done"), or customizations and additions of new features to dummynet/ipfw, I am available (through my department) for doing support on a contract basis. Email luigi@iet.unipi.it for discussing details." As far as being "nowhere as good as you can buy", take a WatchGuard Firebox X1000 for example, they're pretty popular because they work. People that use them always tell me they prefer them to any *Nix based solution. By that statement, I know they've not really looked into that unit because the developers plainly state that it runs on a Linux hardened kernel. It terminates vpn connections, both ipsec and pptp, rate limits, nats and firewalls. All of the very same features you can do with Linux or FreeBSD using the appropriate packages. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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