From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 25 07:11:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA17251 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [195.1.171.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA17242 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:11:45 -0800 (PST) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: (qmail 9209 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 1997 15:11:39 +0000 (GMT) To: brian@shift.lan.awfulhak.org Cc: hans@brandinnovators.com, sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace = ^H In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:04:45 +0000" References: <199703251404.OAA00250@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:11:39 +0100 Message-ID: <9207.859302699@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > So that emacs' help system can work. Why would reversing them > > > contradict their names ? > > Because man 7 ascii tells me that: > > > > 010 bs 011 ht 012 nl 013 vt 014 np 015 cr 016 so 017 si > > .. > > 170 x 171 y 172 z 173 { 174 | 175 } 176 ~ 177 del > > ... > > > > which maps nicely to their ^ variants... Please, just because > > their is this one editor which gets it wrong doesn't mean there is > > a reason to change the basic character encoding of the rest of the > > system. Put this (for xemacs, dunno about emacs) > > Yep - I guess you're right. So my problem remains: why is the "erase" > character set to ^? by default ? This is more of a religious issue than anything else. There are lots of system which use the Delete character (177) to delete a character :-) I prefer a system where ^h is help in emacs, and the arrow key above the enter key is mapped to Delete, which deletes characters. Please don't go around and claim that there is 'one editor that gets it wrong', and using ^h to delete characters is more logical than using Delete. Both of those characters are equally logical. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no