From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 10 18:50:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E92E16A5A9 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from witt@cylogistics.com) Received: from outbound.sentinare.net (outbound.sentinare.net [69.36.229.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72643D48 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from witt@cylogistics.com) Received: from outbound.sentinare.net ([10.7.5.200]) by localhost (cf01.prod.scl.sentinare.net [10.7.5.105]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27883-02; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MALARD (c-69-181-201-237.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.201.237]) by mail.sentinare.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E8C37638; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Don Witt" To: "'Jeff Cross'" , "'Michael Vince'" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:46:55 -0700 Organization: cyLogistics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZcyW/EIkcvA5eKRqaEZMVzAxEL3gABPYow In-Reply-To: <443A9E35.7070003@averageadmins.com> Message-Id: <20060410184638.D2E8C37638@outbound.sentinare.net> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sentinare.net Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Flash Player on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: witt@cylogistics.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:50:30 -0000 I have some contacts at macromedia and would be happy to use them for this effort. Before anyone talks to them, they should not indicate that we will pay. Ask them to do it free first. I have had many companies provide work/porting for nothing. I would like to be involved in this effort as well. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Cross > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:05 AM > To: Michael Vince > Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Flash Player on FreeBSD > > Michael Vince wrote: > > Michael Vince wrote: > > > >> Jeff Cross wrote: > >> > >>> I have seen a number of e-mails lately about a petition > for having a > >>> native Flash Player for the FreeBSD operating system. I have > >>> noticed that the flashplayer* plugin has been removed > from the ports > >>> tree and I understand why. But, what needs to happen to allow > >>> FreeBSD users to use the Flash Player plugin? > >>> > >>> I just saw where Verizon and Adobe have come to an agreement to > >>> allow Verizon to put the Flash Player on their mobile phones. > >>> > >>> > http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/biztech/04/06/adobe.verizon.reut/index. > >>> html?section=cnn_tech > >>> > >>> > >>> Would it be possible to approach Adobe about getting this kind of > >>> agreement for FreeBSD? I mean, their EULA says the > software can't > >>> be used on the Windows XP Media Center operating system (unless I > >>> have misread this, please correct me if I'm wrong). There are a > >>> number of laptops coming out now with the Media Center OS > on them. > >>> Don't you think they run Flash Player on them? > >>> > >>> I'm not trying to kick a dead horse here. Like I said earlier, I > >>> know this has been discussed time and time again. But, I > thoroughly > >>> enjoy using FreeBSD. I rarely boot in to Windows any > more. As much > >>> as I hate to admit it, it just feels natural to visit a Flash > >>> enabled web site and have it work on FreeBSD. Even > though I don't > >>> visit that many (on purpose anyway), when I do I like to > see what I > >>> visited the site to see, even if that happens to be Flash > enabled content. > >>> > >>> I'm sure I'm not as smart as most of you guys, and don't claim to > >>> be, but I am willing to help! > >>> > >>> Jeff Cross > >>> www.averageadmins.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > >> I believe the only way this is going to happen is probably > the same > >> way Verizon got theres and thats with handing over money. > >> I think if some one asked how much money it would cost to get > >> Macromedia/Adobe to port/create a flash player they might > tell us say > >> $20k This could easily be reached since other fund raises > for FreeBSD > >> have accumulated large amounts of money pretty fast. > >> I talked about this in mid March for the FreeBSD Java > project on this > >> mailing list as I noticed that Andre Oppermann fund raise was > >> obviously quite successful. > >> > >> Also Colin Percival did a fund raise less then a week ago got his > >> target of $15,000 Canadian in less then a week just to rewrite 2 > >> programs which are already fully functional. > > > > BTW I forgot to list Colins web site just FYI. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~cperciva/funding.html > > > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > I would be interested in heading this up if no one objects. > I could at least do some of the leg work and see where we sit > or if we can even get a dollar amount and go from there. I > am used to dealing with third-parties/vendors. I do it on a > daily basis at my day job and for a side business I am a partner in. > > I would obviously need some sort of blessing from the > powers-that-be in the FreeBSD realm. I don't have an > @freebsd.org e-mail address so they may not want any > correspondence coming from "noone@nobody.com" (a.k.a. > me) representing the FreeBSD project. > > Anyway, I'm in! If I can help or anyone out there in > "FreeBSD Headquarters" would like for me to head this up, > where do I sign up? If you're interested, reply to the > advocacy mailing list or contact me off list, either way. > > Sincerely, > > Jeff Cross > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >