From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 16:09:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A56B68426 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [185.24.122.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97039110B for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from crayon2.yoonka.com (crayon2.yoonka.com [192.168.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u53G97WY077017 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:08 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Subject: Re: old ports/packages To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <03cc4012-026e-c007-09e1-ee45524f1b95@elischer.org> <1FAFDF989841D03604BB448B@atuin.in.mat.cc> <7b8d22c6-1fed-d517-9f89-693b88dfc358@freebsd.org> <20160504070341.GV740@mail0.byshenk.net> <3dfd6fea-da32-b922-65d1-f64b8e113112@toco-domains.de> <6e340f95-6d10-4991-0cd6-95d336e2f044@gjunka.com> <3e55c7d8-801c-a2b3-e92e-9945e896142b@toco-domains.de> <5809f808-8b16-93ed-5351-828a7d68eb2b@unsane.co.uk> <0df231f8-9f11-bb33-4189-b0e49a5eb1b4@FreeBSD.org> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:07 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0df231f8-9f11-bb33-4189-b0e49a5eb1b4@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:09:11 -0000 On 03/06/2016 07:26, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 02/06/2016 21:08, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >> It's not fair to compare RedHat to FreeBSD. Companies pay good money to >> maintain the support for the systems they are using. They don't pay >> FreeBSD a penny. I think the real issue preventing a wider adoption at >> companies is not that there is no LTS but that there is no commercial >> entity that would maintain its own LTS version of FreeBSD base and >> packages and make it available to companies with paid support options. >> There are only companies who can provide general support for FreeBSD as >> a service. > Have you heard about what Xinuos are doing with FreeBSD? > > http://www.xinuos.com/menu-products/openserver-10 > > Xinuos' whole ethos is in providing long term commercial support, and > their new platform is built on FreeBSD. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Well, that certainly looks very good and I am glad such companies exist, but it's not exactly what I was referring to. Do they actually maintain their own package repository? They mention Xinuos Application Collection for paid service but nowhere on the site I could find what is actually included in that set. And consider that the packages RedHat maintains are publicly available for anyone to download (as source, but still). CentOS is actually using them to create free binary-compatible RedHat replacements. I don't have anything against their business model and Linux environment is quite different to FreeBSD, not only because of the license. I am just noting that's hard to compare RedHat to FreeBSD companies and to me Xinuos doesn't look like RedHat like-for-like in the BSD world (yet). Grzegorz