From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Nov 26 16:14:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDCEDEA9D0 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [96.47.65.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AEA36F007; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 16:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from ralph.baldwin.cx (c-73-231-226-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.226.104]) by mail.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8A3010A8BC; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 11:14:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, lidl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:38:20 -0800 Message-ID: <7326690.xrhihQoxKt@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (FreeBSD/11.1-STABLE; KDE/4.14.30; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <6ba033f3-82ce-da58-1720-623fed180479@FreeBSD.org> References: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org> <6ba033f3-82ce-da58-1720-623fed180479@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.baldwin.cx); Sun, 26 Nov 2017 11:14:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 16:14:08 -0000 On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 03:01:17 PM Kurt Lidl wrote: > On 11/22/17 11:29 AM, Benno Rice wrote: > > I would like people=E2=80=99s opinion on which of the following two= paths we should take: > >=20 > > 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage f= rom the default .login/.profile files. > >=20 > > 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and ma= ke freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as /usr/share/ga= mes/fortune/fortunes. >=20 > Of these options, only #2 is approximately correct. >=20 > I think just leaving the code as-is, and symlinking the freebsd-tips = to > be the default fortune datafile is the correct course of action. >=20 > Removing the offensive flag handling dictates policy towards users > of the program. If someone wants to add their own offensive datafile= > to their system, the code ought to allow them to select it. Agreed. I think removing the default datfiles so that someone can main= tain a port is fine, but we should leave freebsd-tips and the tool. When the -o database was moved out of base we didn't remove the -o option, b= ut instead extended the tool to work with string files in /usr/local. The= current state is fine. The drama and lost time has always been about t= he 4BSD datfiles, never about freebsd-tips or the tool itself, so the issu= e is resolved. --=20 John Baldwin