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Date:      Tue, 31 Jan 2023 01:06:21 +0800
From:      ykla <yklaxds@gmail.com>
To:        Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience
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Hi,

The documentation project on reviews.freebsd.org is also very inactive. For
example, it's been almost 3 months since I submitted my revision -
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322. After I submitted it, it was neither
reviewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to changes in the FreeBSD
documentation, some of my changes conflict with the current documentation
and are difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend some time going over
it again and again, but if no one accepts it, it is pointless. Maybe I
shouldn't make such extensive changes to the documentation.Can you advise
me on how I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot.

ykla

Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> =E4=BA=8E2023=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8830=E6=97=A5=E5=
=91=A8=E4=B8=80 18:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> Hello,
>
> > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seemed
> to
> > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except f=
or
> > the automated bug reports from the bots.
> > I have not had any replies to my several posts either.
>
> > So can the admins tell how many people actually
> > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc,
>
> The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@).
>
> > or is this just a place to report bugs and people
> > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that almo=
st
> > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation?
>
> From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of
> workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so
> not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer.
> I had the same problem...
>
> I see doc-stuff happen mostly on reviews.freebsd.org. (speaking
> as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person
> as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling.
>
> --
> pi@opsec.eu            +49 171 3101372                    Now what ?
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The documentation =
project on <a href=3D"http://reviews.freebsd.org">reviews.freebsd.org</a>; i=
s also very inactive. For example, it&#39;s been almost 3 months since I su=
bmitted my revision - <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322">https:=
//reviews.freebsd.org/D37322</a>. After I submitted it, it was neither revi=
ewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to changes in the FreeBSD docum=
entation, some of my changes conflict with the current documentation and ar=
e difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend some time going over it aga=
in and again, but if no one accepts it, it is pointless. Maybe I shouldn&#3=
9;t make such extensive changes to the documentation.Can you advise me on h=
ow I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>ykla</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">Kurt Jaeger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pi@freebsd.org">pi@freebsd.org</a>&g=
t; =E4=BA=8E2023=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8830=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=80 18:33=E5=
=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
&gt; I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seeme=
d to<br>
&gt; exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except =
for<br>
&gt; the automated bug reports from the bots.<br>
&gt; I have not had any replies to my several posts either.<br>
<br>
&gt; So can the admins tell how many people actually<br>
&gt; subscribe to FreeBSD-doc,<br>
<br>
The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@).<b=
r>
<br>
&gt; or is this just a place to report bugs and people<br>
&gt; should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that alm=
ost<br>
&gt; nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation?<br>
<br>
>From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of<br>
workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so<br>
not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer.<br>
I had the same problem...<br>
<br>
I see doc-stuff happen mostly on <a href=3D"http://reviews.freebsd.org" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">reviews.freebsd.org</a>. (speaking<br>
as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person<br>
as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"mailto:pi@opsec.eu" target=3D"_blank">pi@opsec.eu</a>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +49 171 3101372=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Now what ?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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