From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 15:15:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614DB55B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netbsd@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DC88FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.31.9.103] (unknown [213.225.137.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14E2435C7; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:15:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50BE1391.7050009@marino.st> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:15:29 +0100 From: John Marino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Subject: Re: Fwd: Unified BSD? References: <1352882728.28075.140661153435965.302F0E4C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87a9tw5qju.fsf@inbox.ru> <87wqwyuyxb.fsf@inbox.ru> <50BDAE0C.90303@marino.st> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: users@dragonflybsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, Aleksej Saushev , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:15:33 -0000 On 12/4/2012 16:07, Martin wrote: > Sorry forget that last message. > > GNOME was a bad example, but you did in essence you clarify my point. > That FreeBSD or whichever one you talk about may or may not be using a > different pkgsrc branch. > > I didn't call any components standardized, i said even if you _*were*_ > to standardize certain components for all BSDs (related to package > management/ source) you still would have to get around the fact that > each of them may use a different pkgsrc branch. > > Otherwise you wouldn't have the current differences in software > compatibility where FreeBSD has what (28000 packages?) and NetBSD has > (15000?) > The package count of the two systems is basically affected by lifespan (ports existed first) and manpower, so don't read into this. Ports has about 24000 unique packages, pkgsrc has around 10,800 unique packages (about 2000 are duplicated with multiple python, ruby, php combinations). The user has the option to stay on the branch suggested at the time of the release, or can migrate as he/she wants. In the case of DragonFly, it was catching up with fixing broken packages for a long time, so migrating to newest quarterly is generally recommended. I would say pkgsrc serves to standardize the systems that use it. I could install pkgsrc on OpenIndiana as an example and use the same software on that platform. John