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Date:      Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:34:20 -0400
From:      Jon Parise <jon@csh.rit.edu>
To:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, Andrew Hesford <ajh3@usrlib.org>, Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, Mark Santcroos <marks@ripe.net>, Doug Barton <DougB@DougBarton.net>, bsddiy@163.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: import NetBSD rc system
Message-ID:  <20010611233420.I26841@csh.rit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200106120305.f5C35Ri37415@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:05:27PM -0700
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:05:27PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:

Just a note that further (negative) commentors should really do a
little investigating before jumping to conclusions.  This thread
has gone on long enough with people making uninformed guesses and
assumptions.

>     All I care about is /etc/rc.conf ... I like the idea of splitting
>     the various other rc files into pieces as long as I can control them
>     all from /etc/rc.conf.  If it's extensible that's even better!

Exactly.  All of the configuration knobs remain in /etc/rc.conf
(so everything works the way it does know, including
sysinstall(8)-generated configuration values.  /etc/defaults is
there with all of our old friends, too.

With the proposed NetBSD-derived system, individual services are
isolated in their very own scripts, making starting / stopping
them very convenient (the only advantage I see to the SysV
layout).  In addition, the integrity of dependency graph is also
maintained, while retaining extra flexibility.

>     What I really hate is the SysV/Linux/Solaris style of rc.d configuration
>     directories where you create/maintain softlinks in specially named
>     directories (named after the run level) to a master set of 
>     startup files.  Blech.  Yuch.  Ptooey!

Agreed.  It's not that I have a difficult time grokking the
layout; there's just too much work involved (both in the fingers
and in the head) working with a SysV-like setup (IHO, no need to
try changing my mind).

-- 
Jon Parise (jon@csh.rit.edu)  .  Rochester Inst. of Technology
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/  :  Computer Science House Member

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