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Date:      Thu, 27 May 2004 20:30:40 -0400
From:      David Magda <dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how to interpret crash?
Message-ID:  <3F18ECCE-B03E-11D8-A04B-000A95B96FF8@ee.ryerson.ca>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040527194447.74482A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040527194447.74482A-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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On May 27, 2004, at 19:55, Robert Watson wrote:

> you need.  If you've cvsup'd and no longer have the source code for the
> old kernel, regardless of having debugging symbols, you're in a much 
> worse
> starting point for tracking down the problem.

I don't pretend to have the knowledge to actually fix a kernel issue. 
:> I would simply want to have a way to provide a useful backtrace for 
developers. Even if I cvsup'd I could always use CVSWeb to look at the 
previous revision.

> One important reason that the debugging kernel isn't kept around is 
> space
> considerations: in -CURRENT, a 5mb kernel will generally be 
> accompanied by

Yes, this is why I suggested a variable in make.conf with an .if 
statement in the Makefiles.

Searching through the the Makefiles: around line 193 in file 
sys/conf/kern.post.mk you have (from a 5.2.1-p7 system):

.if defined(DEBUG) && defined(INSTALL_DEBUG)
         ${INSTALL} -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel ${FULLKERNEL} 
${DESTDIR}${KODIR}
.else
         ${INSTALL} -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel ${KERNEL_KO} 
${DESTDIR}${KODIR}
.endif

Would changing it to the following work?

.if defined(DEBUG) && defined(INSTALL_DEBUG)
         ${INSTALL} -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel ${FULLKERNEL} 
${DESTDIR}${KODIR}
.else
         ${INSTALL} -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel ${KERNEL_KO} 
${DESTDIR}${KODIR}
.if defined(INST_KERNDEBUG)
         ${INSTALL} -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel ${FULLKERNEL} 
${DESTDIR}${KODIR}
.endif
.endif

I haven't checked how FULLKERNEL is defined.



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