From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 16:37:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AE216A400 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao06.cox.net (centrmmtao06.cox.net [70.168.83.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A96A43D46 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:37:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060501163727.SPDX16541.centrmmtao06.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 1 May 2006 12:37:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:39:42 -0500 From: "Jeremy Messenger" To: "Kevin Oberman" References: <20060501162434.371EC45053@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060501162434.371EC45053@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.54 (Linux, build 1745) Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Observations on Gnome-2.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 16:37:29 -0000 On Mon, 01 May 2006 11:24:34 -0500, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I have one system running V6-stable that is now running Gnome-2.14. Some > things are really nice about it, but there are some oddities and some > things that need touching. > > First, an easy one...netspeed_applet needs to be rebuilt. I think a bump > of PORTREVISION is in order. > > When I first started 2.14, I got messages that several icons > (gnome-calculator, logout, screen-lock) could not be found and were > displayed as white icons with a red 'X'. But after acknowledging the > message, all of the icons appeared and work fine. > > This might be a race as I am running i386 on an AMD dual-core 4400+ > Athlon-64 processor and it may be getting something done before things > are ready. This is also intermittent. It happens about half the time > when I start Gnome. (I use startx, not gdm.) > > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon" > issue. > > gnome-terminal has sometimes crashed on logout from Gnome. I have not > tried to debug this at all. I do see that the contents of > .gnome2/session no longer have information on all of the gnome-terminal > windows. Just a simple command, so I guess gnome-terminal is storing > this somewhere else. (I need to find out where to debug why at least one > window never restarts.) > > Sessions are a bit messed up. As already reported, all manually > startup-sessions are gone after the upgrade and must be re-entered. No > longer is there an ordering option, but this might be settable via the > "Current Session" tab. I'll paly around with it if I get a little time. > > The logout tool no longer has a check-box to save the session. I THINK I > saved it by going into the "Sessions" prefs and selecting to > automatically save the session on logout and logging out. I then logged > back in and de-selected that option. There is still an option (which is > selected) to "Ask on logout". It appears to be a no-op in 2.14, though. > > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon" > issue. > > Noise level issue: we really need a FreeBSD splash. The default Gnome > splash is just too boring looking. > > Problems I was having with calling ssh-add at session start are gone. I > never reported this, but if I included ssh-add (with gnome-ssh-askpass) > in the "Startup Programs" the startup would have for between 1 and 3 > minutes and sometimes the wnck-applet would go into a loop and eat one > CPU. Killing wnck-applet would fix the problem as it automatically > restarts. In any case, this issue looks like it is gone! > > Big win in performance. Not everything is faster, but many things are > very noticeably faster. I'll have a better idea about this tomorrow when > I have a slower system upgraded. My dual-core is new and things always > seem to be fast, but I think I really like it. > > Thanks to the entire Gnome team for the work on this. It has thus far, > been the least painful Gnome version upgrade I have ever had. Try to login in a dummy user and see if you still have the same problems. My experience of upgrade, I had to clear a several of ~/.* to get GNOME 2.14 and other apps stable. Mostly are from .gconf* stuff. Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org