From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Oct 3 19:22:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13862 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13780 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16038; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Terry Lambert cc: opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Oct 1998 02:00:24 -0000." <199810040200.TAA18605@usr06.primenet.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 19:21:07 -0700 Message-ID: <16034.907467667@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I saw two articles by SEF more recent than that, in Dr. Dobb's > Journal. DDJ is not what I consider "mainstream" in the same sense that I consider the more, erm, "market driven" publications (which hardly ever mention us :) "mainstream." It's a great techie magazine, don't get me wrong, and I was perfectly happy to see SEF publish his two articles in it (I even got him extra cash for doing it), but it's not what I was talking about. > I have also seen at least 7 articles in various publications. As have I - I get a lot of them sent to me. Of all I've seen, however, the only mention which would fit my definition of mainstream press penetration is the PC Magazine article this month (FreeBSD 2.2.7, pp 227. :) which really, for me at least, marked a final re-entrance of FreeBSD into this realm after a long absence. Can't say how much more of it I'm going to see, but it was nice to see it all the same. > In the August 1998 ";login", the USENIX Association's magazine, More than just August - he's been running a series for at least the last 5 issues. I review most of them before they run, time permitting. > Also, do not forget the WIDE project. > > Though FreeBSD has consistently failed to integrate their code > (starting with their IPv6 and DHCP implementations, and most > recently, with the failure to integrate their IPSEC implementation), > nevertheless, there is a large academic following for BSD in general > and FreeBSD in particular. Don't start digging the grave on that yet. We haven't said we *weren't* going to commit their code either, and that's at least a mark of differentiation between us and the other *BSDs which have already pretty much cast their votes. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message