From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 14 18:59:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2126516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E67043D58 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:59:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([68.161.84.3]) by out005.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040515015907.BXHU2677.out005.verizon.net@mac.com> for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:59:07 -0500 Message-ID: <40A579DA.7070404@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:00:58 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Fri, 14 May 2004 20:59:07 -0500 Subject: Re: blacklist(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 01:59:10 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: [ ...speaking of anti-spam... ] According to the RFCs, one MUST NOT bounce mail sent to postmaster. One ought to read the rfc-ignorant.org site I mentioned. Oddly enough, even spammers tend not to spam , perhaps if only because the postmaster tends to be willing and able to respond to spam effectively. :-/ -- -Chuck --------begin forwarded message--------- This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the return address was refused. The return address was '' Please reply to Postmaster@verizon.net if you feel this message to be in error. Reporting-MTA: dns; out007.verizon.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:39:04 -0500 Received-From-MTA: dns; mac.com (68.161.84.3) Final-Recipient: RFC822; Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; ns1.thought.org (216.231.43.140) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Verizon email not wanted here -------- Subject: Re: blacklist(s) From: Chuck Swiger Date:Fri, 14 May 2004 21:40:55 -0400 To: postmaster@thought.org Gary Kline wrote: [ ... ] Ack! I don't have a problem with refusing mail from *.dsl.verizon.net, or with *.client.comcast.net, or any other dialup/broadband range, but bouncing authenticated mail relayed via Verizon's mailservers is probably excessive. -- -Chuck -------begin forwarded message, snip to actual bounce message------ This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the return address was refused. The return address was '' Please reply to Postmaster@verizon.net if you feel this message to be in error. --===========================_ _= 3369445(29216)1084583438 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; out009.verizon.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500 Received-From-MTA: dns; mac.com (68.161.84.3) Final-Recipient: RFC822; Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; ns1.thought.org (216.231.43.140) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Verizon email not wanted here --===========================_ _= 3369445(29216)1084583438 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mac.com ([68.161.84.3]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040515011025.TPZU29216.out009.verizon.net@mac.com>; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: <40A56E70.8060303@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:12:16 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline CC: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blacklist(s) References: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Fri, 14 May 2004 20:10:25 -0500