From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 28 1:47:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2343637B407; Tue, 28 May 2002 01:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g4S8lOp47245 ; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:47:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id KAA39228 ; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:47:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:47:24 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brad Knowles , "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , pgreen , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Language in danger: Language loss Message-ID: <20020528104724.B37937@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3CF17486.F06F3E6A@mindspring.com> <20020527104558.B43610@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3CF2710E.BE2710EC@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CF2710E.BE2710EC@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:46:54AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on May 27, 2002 at 10:46:54: > > I would argue that this issue is handled largely by reflex, with > > relatively little conscious thought. What conscious thought has gone > > into this process happened before the situation began, so your reflex > > is going to be guided by your memory of the overall situation > > immediately before the unexpected occurrence. > > You know, I was going to liken driver's training and playing such > situations over in your head before the event itself, to a "kata", > which is (basically) a martial arts technique for training reflexes to > carry through into useful actions. But then I thought "Naw, they'd > never buy that one". 8-). Actually, I would argue that all thought really occurs at some such subconscious level, and when you're thinking "consciously" you're really playing these thoughts back to yourself. You can force yourself to think about a problem, but often the answer comes to you as a sudden insight when you're thinking about something else (or think you're thinking about something else). Training and practice (in mathematics or computer programming or whatever) serve only to streamline this unconscious process. It's like breathing, you can control it if you want to but it works best if you don't control it. However, breathing exercises could be good for health nonetheless. Not my original idea, better people than me have said it, but I can't think of the references... Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message