From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Dec 1 21: 2: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A1637B405; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 21:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB2521M31162; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:02:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:01:58 -0500 To: Robert Watson , arch@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates in default install on -CURRENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:27 PM -0500 12/1/01, Robert Watson wrote: >I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't time to switch sysinstall to start >configuring softupdates "by default" for file systems at install-time. >We currently allow it to be selected, but don't enable it by default. >I would propose it be turned on by default for all non-root file >systems, or some other similar rule (file systems <64MB, ..). I expect it would be best to have it default 'off' for /, because the user can get into strange-seeming failures when installing a new kernel. I do like the idea of it being on for most other filesystems. I don't have much of an opinion as to whether it should also default to off for other "small" file systems. >[this change] not only addresses performance but improved reliability, >it seems to me that this would be a sensible change to introduce at some >useful breaking point, and 5.0 provides a good opportunity to do that. Given the benefits, it might even be reasonable for 4.5. Certainly it would be nice to do with 5.0. [whatever happened to softupdates becoming a mount-option, instead of something set in the partition via 'tunefs'? ] -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message