Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2023 21:13:34 +0000 From: Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> To: Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org> Cc: Pau Amma <pauamma@gundo.com>, doc-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-doc-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 71f0bf9790 - main - .vale/styles: Merge spelling-exceptions Message-ID: <C3DFEED9-9567-4495-BB10-A95A82BD3604@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <FD49E43E-3D79-4079-920F-906B588BF3AA@freebsd.org> References: <FD49E43E-3D79-4079-920F-906B588BF3AA@freebsd.org>
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> On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:22, Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> On Dec 23, 2023, at 8:55 PM, Pau Amma <pauamma@gundo.com> wrote: >>=20 >> On 2023-12-23 18:51, Ceri Davies wrote: >>>> On 23 Dec 2023, at 18:43, Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Dec 23, 2023, at 7:23 PM, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2023, at 11:33, Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> wrot= e: >>>>>>>>>> On 22 Dec 2023, at 14:59, Muhammad Moinur Rahman <bofh@freebsd.or= g> wrote: >>>>>>>>> +descendents >>>>>>>> Although I have not checked for the context in which it is used, th= is word is almost certainly misspelled as =E2=80=9Cdescendent=E2=80=9D is an= adjective. The noun =E2=80=9Cdescendants=E2=80=9D is most likely the intend= ed use. >>>>>>> No it's not. The actual word is descendant which can be used as both= Noun and Adjective and descendents is the plural of that. >>>>>> That is not correct. Pluralising a noun by adding an =E2=80=9Cs=E2=80= =9D does not frequently - or ever, as far as I can think - change the spelli= ng of the rest of a word. >>>>>> =E2=80=9CDescendent=E2=80=9D, as I said, is an adjective and the plur= al of =E2=80=9Cdescendant=E2=80=9D is =E2=80=9Cdescendants=E2=80=9D. >>>>> At the moment I am not in the state to fight over a word. If you think= the word is wrong please find the origin in the doc tree and submit a revie= w or commit it. >>> It=E2=80=99s definitely wrong. I will change it at some point, but we n= eed to >>> be extra careful with words we are adding to the linter. >>=20 >> If I may: >>=20 >> MW online (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/descendant) has "de= scendant" both as an adjective and a noun, and says "or less commonly descen= dent" in both. >>=20 >> AHD online (https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=3Ddescendant)= has it as a noun, and as an adjective says "Variant of descendent". Its "de= scendent" entry (https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?id=3DD5155900= ) has it only as an adjective, and says "de=C2=B7scen=C2=B7dent also de=C2=B7= scen=C2=B7dant"; both AHD entries together imply but do not say outright "de= scendent" is more common. I read this as 50% of the reference material you quote supports what I said,= and the other 50% supports preference for my view. >> I couldn't, unfortunately, check the ODAE as it seems to have no free onl= ine edition. Still, as the above shows, there's room for disagreement and wh= ich of you is right depends on which dictionary you prefer. So the question b= ecomes: which dictionary does (or should) the FreeBSD Documentation Project p= refer when they disagree? Therefore, this isn=E2=80=99t the question. If we=E2=80=99d perhaps had a discussion on doc@ about the use of vale as I a= sked for about a year ago, instead of carlavilla@ literally laughing at me f= or suggesting it, we might have bottomed this out. Ceri=20
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