From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 22:34:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D37C16A401; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A708813C489; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.16]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3D92DDB74; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF48AABAE0; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-174-014.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.174.14]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98AB2C875E; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (www@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l36MYr8f000658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3/Submit) id l36MYq4r000657; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lofi.dyndns.org: www set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f Received: from 84.44.128.56 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lofi) by lofi.dyndns.org with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1203.84.44.128.56.1175898892.squirrel@lofi.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <1263.81.173.179.111.1175885648.squirrel@lofi.dyndns.org> References: <1263.81.173.179.111.1175885648.squirrel@lofi.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:34:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: michaelnottebrock@gmx.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Jean-Yves Lefort , gnome@freebsd.org, Michael Nottebrock , kde-freebsd@freebsd.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] system:/media/cd0 and volume_label not latin symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: michaelnottebrock@gmx.net List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:34:58 -0000 I wrote: > [case-sensitive sorting rants & other things] Over all that I forgot to point out why lack of collation support in the UTF-8 locales actually matters anyway. Take for instance the Lithuanian locale: FreeBSD has locale definitions for lt_LT.ISO8859-13, lt_LT.ISO8859-4 and lt_LT.UTF-8. r Lithuanian alphabet: a ą b c č d e ę ė f g h i [...] $ setenv LANG lt_LT.ISO8859-13 $ touch a ą b c č d $ ls a ą b c č d $ rm * $ setenv LANG lt_LT.UTF-8 $ touch a ą b c č d $ ls $ a b c d ą č ^^^ wrong! And that's a rather big oops - at least for Lithuanians. So I don't think you can really recommend everyone to switch their legacy locales to UTF-8 just yet. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org