From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 04:26:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328C1106564A; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021638FC18; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q534QXqv008768; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:26:37 -0600 From: Erich To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:26:26 +0700 Message-ID: <6003900.DuBAmUures@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1405746.nVtAo183hi@x220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: David Chisnall , Chris Rees Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:26:38 -0000 Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 10:52:48 Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 June 2012 10:42, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote: > >> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky" > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to > >> the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic > >> library will result in a complete update of the installed ports. I > >> expressed this already many time here. It would be of advantage if the > >> ports tree would also have tags like the base system itself. > >> > > >> > >> Unfortunately this is a massive amount of extra work - we only just keep up > >> with updates as it is. > > > > I do not think so. At least not for the first step as I see it. Just make snapshots of the ports tree when the release comes out. These snapshots are with the releases anyway. > > > > What I did was very simple. I got the ports tree that comes with the release and installed the system back to the release status. Ok, it was some work for me - maybe not for others - to find this tree. > > > > A simple link could help here. > > > > I do not know if this is just an opinion which is too optimistic. > > > > What I know is that all the security fixes which appeared since the release are not in there. If I have the choice between three days or more of compiling and known security holes, I will take the security holes, make the client happy and upgrade after the work for the client is finished. > > > > I would not expect that FreeBSD will provide more than this. > > Then you already have all you need-- RELEASEs use packages compiled at > time of release if you use pkg_add -r, and the ports tree is tagged at > release if you wish to get a 'snapshot'. I have it. Yes, but how difficult is this to get for others? > > Note that you will not get any official support if you choose to use a > tagged tree :) When you can chose between a running system and a supported system which does not work, which would you take? Erich