Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:26:26 +0700 From: Erich <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? Message-ID: <6003900.DuBAmUures@x220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <CADLo838ttnQjADM0P4dNOoZ5nwbmwbmvtu5yySt9pR3odb4CgA@mail.gmail.com> References: <C480320C-0CD9-4B61-8AFB-37085C820AB7@FreeBSD.org> <1405746.nVtAo183hi@x220.ovitrap.com> <CADLo838ttnQjADM0P4dNOoZ5nwbmwbmvtu5yySt9pR3odb4CgA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 10:52:48 Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 June 2012 10:42, Erich Dollansky <erich@alogreentechnologies.com> wrote: > > On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote: > >> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky" <erich@alogreentechnologies.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to > >> the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic > >> library will result in a complete update of the installed ports. I > >> expressed this already many time here. It would be of advantage if the > >> ports tree would also have tags like the base system itself. > >> > > >> > >> Unfortunately this is a massive amount of extra work - we only just keep up > >> with updates as it is. > > > > I do not think so. At least not for the first step as I see it. Just make snapshots of the ports tree when the release comes out. These snapshots are with the releases anyway. > > > > What I did was very simple. I got the ports tree that comes with the release and installed the system back to the release status. Ok, it was some work for me - maybe not for others - to find this tree. > > > > A simple link could help here. > > > > I do not know if this is just an opinion which is too optimistic. > > > > What I know is that all the security fixes which appeared since the release are not in there. If I have the choice between three days or more of compiling and known security holes, I will take the security holes, make the client happy and upgrade after the work for the client is finished. > > > > I would not expect that FreeBSD will provide more than this. > > Then you already have all you need-- RELEASEs use packages compiled at > time of release if you use pkg_add -r, and the ports tree is tagged at > release if you wish to get a 'snapshot'. I have it. Yes, but how difficult is this to get for others? > > Note that you will not get any official support if you choose to use a > tagged tree :) When you can chose between a running system and a supported system which does not work, which would you take? Erich
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