From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 23:38:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52FC16A4DF; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marco@dev.peereboom.us) Received: from dev.peereboom.us (adsl-67-64-89-177.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [67.64.89.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F57E43D45; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:38:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@dev.peereboom.us) Received: from dev.peereboom.us (marco@localhost.peereboom.us [127.0.0.1]) by dev.peereboom.us (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7VNI1Ia004513; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from marco@localhost) by dev.peereboom.us (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) id k7VNI0st032687; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:18:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:18:00 -0500 From: Marco Peereboom To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20060831231759.GD12837@peereboom.us> References: <20060830232723.GU10101@multics.mit.edu> <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <20060831184715.B82634@hub.org> <44F7619B.8010609@evilkittens.org> <20060831192632.T82634@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060831192632.T82634@hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: miros-discuss@mirbsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, Gilles Chehade , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:38:37 -0000 This is the most retarded thing I heard in weeks. On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 07:28:29PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > >Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >>> > >>>I doubt that'll be productive -- NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD have all > >>>different goals... > >> > >>Even at the kernel level? Look at device drivers and vendors as one > >>example ... companies like adaptec have to write *one* device driver, > >>for, what, 50+ distributions of linux ... for us, they need to write one > >>for FreeBSD, one for NetBSD, one for OpenBSD, and *now* one for > >>DragonflyBSD ... if we had *at least* a common API for that sort of > >>stuff, it might be asier to get support at the vendor level, no? > >> > > > >How would a common API provide more support from the vendor ? What does > >the API have to do with releasing documentation ? > > I'd rather have Adaptec provide a source code driver for their cards > directly, then have Scott Long have to fight with unavailability of > documentation itself ... if the driver works, what do we need > documentation for? >