From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 19 22:14:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD8215151 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00240 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11507 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199904200335.WAA14595@pyrl.eye> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:12:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Apr-99 Daniel Ortmann wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 03:52:58PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote: > ... >> Many people don't seem to understand that FreeBSD can be used for >> workstations as well as servers and Fortran is *essential* on a >> scientific/engineering workstation. > ... > > Absolutely correct. Some up-and-coming IBM simulation ports require > Fortran categorically. > > It's tough answering questions like "FreeB... what? Is that like Linux?" > > Without a STANDARD system Fortran compiler an operating system is > unlikely to be taken seriously by ANY large engineering company. > > We could, however, do without "fortune". :-) I'd rather keep both. :) IMHO, we should only add or delete stuff from the main tree if there is a pressing reason. Having knobs in /etc/make.conf should fix most people's complaints about the disk space, although if you are too tight for 518k (for f77/f2c on 3-stable) or 3631k for fortune and friends, you must be *really* tight on disk space. Also, one of the primary arguments in favor of FreeBSD over one other well-know Un*x like OS is that BSD is derived from "real" Un*x code, and preserving that tradition, except when it is absolutely critical for it to be changed/abandoned, is a good thing. > -- > Daniel Ortmann IBM Circuit Technology --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message