Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:44:04 -0800 From: Allan Bowhill <abowhill@blarg.net> To: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in ports howto question Message-ID: <20031125064404.GA38625@kosmos.my.net> In-Reply-To: <20031125072702.GG340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> References: <20031027200046.33CF516A4DB@hub.freebsd.org> <20031027214510.GA52000@kosmos.mynet> <20031027223648.GC1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20031028000708.GA52155@kosmos.mynet> <20031028004319.GF1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20031125072702.GG340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz>
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On 0, Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz> wrote: :# barner@in.tum.de / 2003-10-28 01:43:19 +0100: :> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 04:07:08PM -0800, kosmos wrote: :> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Simon Barner wrote: :> > > > What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to :> > > > a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? :> > > :> > > You have to configure sendmail (or any other MTA of your choice) to use :> > > a proper mail server (e.g your ISP's) as a smarthost/mailrelay. Perhaps :> > > at least a reference to the according sendmail documentation should be :> > > added to the send-pr man page. :> > :> > Yes, I tried installing a simpler MTA this morning. :> > :> > I think it's asking too much to require sendmail configuration :> > expertise from contributing porters. Sendmail configuration is :> > normally relegated to sysadmins that specialize in it. : : then use a different MTA, one with proper documentation, : configuration helpers, or digestible config file formats. there's : plenty of them in ports. qmail bundled documentation contains : precise description of steps required to produce a nullclient : configuration, as does postfix documentation. Thanks. I educated myself on this with the help of Simon Barner, who is doing documentation for the handbook on this problem. And it _is_ a problem. :> > The skill sets are mutually exclusive. : : aha. you can't possess skill in both skiing and driving. the skill : sets are mutually exclusive. eh? Yep. Skiiing is not driving, and driving is not skiiing. They require mutually exclusive skill sets. :> > > > I wonder how many people just give up trying. :> > > :> > > Good question. Every single volunteer giving up is a pity. :> > :> > Yep. It happens and nobody is aware of it. The ports collection doesn't :> > really benefit from decreased access for contributors. : : is it that hard to have send-pr(1) save the PR in file instead of : sending it out, and attach it to a mail in your favorite graphical MUA? : you *are* able to reach @freebsd.org, after all. As a matter of fact, that's what I did. And it really screwed things up. My favourite graphical MUA (or someone's MUA) inserted quote characters in the PR, which mangled it. Then I tried to submit an attachment as an update to it, which got mangled by my favorite MUA, but accepted by GNATS. Then I sent in a uuencoded webmail attachment as a second update which seemed to work, at least if you remove the leading spaces. This is a problem, becuase the PR was a new port. Now nobody will touch the port becuase it looks too hard to deal with. So it will probably sit in GNATS for 6 months, until someone takes it upon themselves to clean it out. Then, I guess I can re-submit it. -- Allan Bowhill abowhill@blarg.net You have the body of a 19 year old. Please return it before it gets wrinkled.
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