From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 11 18:29:53 2007 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG> X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442F016A46B for <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org>; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quetzal@zone3000.net) Received: from mx1.sitevalley.com (sitevalley.com [209.67.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFA0A13C465 for <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org>; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quetzal@zone3000.net) Received: from zone3000.kharkov.ua (HELO localhost) (217.144.69.37) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Jul 2007 18:03:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:03:10 +0300 From: Nikolay Pavlov <quetzal@zone3000.net> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Message-ID: <20070711180310.GA33283@zone3000.net> References: <20070711190546.4b202080@deskjail> <57627.1184175231@critter.freebsd.dk> <20070711195110.48820aff@deskjail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070711195110.48820aff@deskjail> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Cc: Rui Paulo <rpaulo@fnop.net>, Shteryana Shopova <syrinx@FreeBSD.org>, "Constantine A. Murenin" <cnst@FreeBSD.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Porting OpenBSD's sysctl hw.sensors framework to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture <freebsd-arch.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:29:53 -0000 On Wednesday, 11 July 2007 at 19:51:10 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> (Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:33:51 +0000): > > > In message <20070711190546.4b202080@deskjail>, Alexander Leidinger writes: > > >Quoting "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> (Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:54:40 +0000): > > > > >You are focusing on physical devices which are specially build as a > > >sensor for some specific stuff. I put my focus on the kernel framework > > >which allows to unify the handling of sensoric data from kernel > > >devices. > > > > I'm trying to point out that your kernel framework belongs in userland. > > It's not my framework. > > > There is no benefit from having it in the kernel. > > You need to get some information out of the kernel somehow (you cut > this part of my mail). And as far as I understand the high level > description (presentation in the net) of this framework, this does this > in an unified way. Do you propose to get the information out of the > kernel in a non-uniform way? I think he wants to say that you could have a broader look at this problem. Placing the code into kernel is not a necessary requriemet here to create a unified framework. It can be done much easier in the user environment. Or don't you forget a mocrokernel approach? -- ====================================================================== - Best regards, Nikolay Pavlov. <<<----------------------------------- ======================================================================