From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Sep 14 0:14:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5692737B400; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 00:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baraca.united.net.ua (ns.united.net.ua [193.111.8.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0F43E3B; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 00:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (xDSL-2-2.united.net.ua [193.111.9.226]) by baraca.united.net.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8E7EKk67660; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:14:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (max@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8E7Ea1X021253; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:14:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8E7EXSa021252; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:14:33 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:14:32 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev To: Alan E Cc: Jeremy Lea , FreeBSD Ports List , FreeBSD Gnome Team Subject: Re: fork bombs registering packages using GNOMENG Message-ID: <20020914071432.GA21237@vega.vega.com> References: <20020913173752.GA53609@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <20020913175115.GA90567@shale.csir.co.za> <20020913184701.GA75702@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020913184701.GA75702@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 02:47:01PM -0400, Alan E wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 07:51:15PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 01:37:52PM -0400, Alan E wrote: > >> If you set USE_GNOME on the make command line, > > > >And if you hold down the power button it turns the whole machine off... > >What's your point? > > I fail to see the analogy. > > If setting USE_GNOME (it was an attempt to get rid of esound) on the > command line is going to have such catastrophic results, then > bsd.gnomeng.mk ought to detect it and stop the make and issue a > diagnostic message indicating that what you've done is wrong. > > I don't think it is reasonable that something as innocuous as attempting > to override a variable on the make command line can bring the machine to > its knees (although, to its credit, the kernel did not fall over). > > Personally, I thik a fork bomb coming out of a port make for *any* > reason whatsoever is indicative of a severe design or implementation > error. It just should *not* happen. Try to do `make USE_XLIB=yes install' in any x11 ports and you'll get the same forkbomb. Please learn how bsd.port.mk in particular and make(1) in general work and then we'll return to this discussion. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message