From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 30 23:23:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B575216A587 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:23:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FA1442D2 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:02:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.06/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k5UN2cKg008459; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:02:38 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.06/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k5UN2cIh031863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:02:38 -0700 Message-ID: <44A5AD8D.4000504@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:02:37 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pinguelo@comcast.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060630220311.ea48c940.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <20060630220311.ea48c940.coolzone@io.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Subject: Re: Frustration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:23:32 -0000 Rico Secada wrote: > Being an experienced BSD user who on a daily basis gives support to other people using BSD, wether FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD, I hardly think this has to do with FreeBSD. > > This rather sounds like a typical MS whiner, who hasn't really got around to actually understand what he is doing. In some situations there are hardware complications, which again hasn't got anything to do with FreeBSD but rather is based upon hardware vendores keeping others than MS from using their hardware. > > Long story short, stop whining and just go back to MS Windows. Nobody cares! > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:51:00 -0400 > "Fernando Pinguelo" wrote: > > >> I am writing to you because I need to vent. I have tried installing version 5.3 of FreeBSD on a Pentium III machine. I thought I succeeded in doing it so, but when I tried to build xOrg I realized that I did not have all the ports installed and that some other dependencies were also missing. I realized then that the installation had not been as successful as I first thought. >> So, I tried to re-install the ports from the CD, since I didn't have an Internet connection to that machine. Well, I kept getting more and more hardware/software errors. I then tried to upgrade FreeBSD to version 6.1. And that was what I did; I tried. >> >> Well, I kept getting more errors, as usual. The more I tried to install/reinstall/upgrade/fix FreeBSD, the more I was realizing that anything that had to do with FreeBSD that could go wrond would go wrong, be it the software installation or hardware behavior. The amount of work and headache that I have been experiencing to move a single 'inch' towards a working Unix environment has been enourmously frustating. The worst part of it all is that I have not accomplished anything tangible at all. >> >> I think now it is time for this boy to abandon the 'Unix' bandwagon for good and move back to MS Windows. At least I will be able to concentrate on doing real productive work, instead of dealing with temperamental hardware and software every time I touch the PC. >> >> Good luck to those heroic individuals who stick with the configuration fight to the end. I failed to see the 'Power to Serve'. >> >> Bye, >> >> Fernando Whatever floats your boat. Also, if you want to complain about this in the future, I suggest using another method maybe, like a blog or diary since most people don't really earnestly take what you write in email to heart, esp. when you complain about a topic on a list which advocates that topic. Then again this shouldn't have really been written to this list, anyhow since this is a complaint and not a question =P. Next time you should ask before giving up as well; you'd be amazed at how diligently people would try to assist you with your issue. -Garrett