From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 4 10:29:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mgr2.xmission.com (mgr2.xmission.com [198.60.22.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1038D37B401 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootman@xmission.com) Received: from [198.60.22.22] (helo=mail.xmission.com) by mgr2.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15T5F0-0005xe-00; Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:29:34 -0600 Received: from [166.70.9.61] (helo=blackmirror.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15T5Ey-0001bf-00; Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:29:33 -0600 From: Joe Warner To: joel2a@yahoo.com, Julian Peterson Subject: Re: Microsoft bashers Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:16:08 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> <4.2.2.20010803231933.00d5bb40@pop.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010803231933.00d5bb40@pop.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080411285100.00445@blackmirror.xmission.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 03 Aug 2001, joel2a@yahoo.com wrote: > Laff. I figured I'd get some flame responses but whatever. Pheh, what did you expect? You falsly accused members of this list of rampant Microsoft bashing. FWIW, and I think I can safely speak for everyone, we've got better things to do than sit around and bash Microsoft. > I think people would get along much better if they would just leave > Microsoft in their corner and quit bashing them. Again..(see response above) > They have their good points even if not always perfect. Agreed and may I point out that even Microsoft likes FreeBSD. This is why Microsoft's Hotmail.com still uses FreeBSD for their DNS servers and why they have recently announced that they will be including specific BSD components in their .NET initiative. > And I have an ISP business thanks to Windows NT. So if ya don't like > Microsoft go write to your senator. Again...(see first response) > > End of story I'm not responding to anymore responses in this mailing list > on that subject. Good! Here's some advice..why don't you post your flame bait on a Windows mailing list? You'll probably get more people to agree with you. Joe > > Joel > > At 03:10 PM 8/4/01 +1200, you wrote: > >At 22:26 3/08/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >>Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be back > >>the days of console prompt typing and there certainly would not be as > >>many people on the internet. > > > >yeah uh huh. oh I forgot, Microsoft invented the GUI right? And the > >Internet too? Sure. > > > > > >>While Unix is good and freebsd is cool to have much of the open source > >>software is still very bugged. > > > >And Windows isn't? FreeBSD and Linux (and Unix in general) are far more > >stable than Windows. > > > > > >>If anyone is wondering why KDE or Kthis or gnome that doesn't work > >>right... what do you expect! > >>It's open source and why don't you learn C and fix it yourself! > > > >They have work to be done on them, granted. The cool thing is work *is* > >being done on them... at a dizzing rate. Both of those desktop > >environments have come a long way very quickly, and personally I'd choose > >either over Windows any day. I find I'm much more productive because I > >can tailor my desktop to exactly the way I want. > > > >Windows doesn't work right... what can I do about that? > > > > > >>Not really to bash anyone but I think Microsoft bashers really don't have > >>a clue themselves and I kinda like playing Asheron's Call or Everquest on > >>a windows machine! > >>Try playing that on a a Unix machine! > > > >I'm more of a Quake player myself... > > > >Games are one of things that will come as market share improves. As it is > >I've never felt like I'm missing out, but then I'm not much of a gamer. > >There's a bunch of solutions to that anyway... dual boot, wine, > >lokigames.com, and the PS2 > > > > > >>Word processing in a console and putting it through Postscript to get > >>formatting! GIVE ME A BREAK! Some of you Microsoft bashers are worse than > >>not having a clue! How about getting a life! > > > >I did my masters thesis using emacs and latex. It was very easy. All I > >had to do was write, all of the formatting and layout was taken care > >of. I watched one guy struggle through with Word... after a few hundred > >pages with images it got so very very slow, and eventually corrupted > >itself. *shrug* > > > >If you want a GUI for latex, there's Lyx > > > >If you really really feel that you can't live without a GUI word > >processor, well there's Abiword, Wordperfect, Applix, Kword, and > >Staroffice (just off the top of my head). > > > > > >Julian. > > > > > >PS. For not wanting to bash anyone, you do a pretty lousy job. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Joe Warner Daemon News Bringing BSD Together Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Daily Daemon News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message