From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 25 21:37:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855B316A402 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F13C43D46 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 69707 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2006 21:37:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZbpRRl8JiwDRl7YiFsrwg1ZF9bAI7MEZKaOQvEeJwDUbNrTB6USZ8l6zruL51X1DNUq4xRxTH+47p54lSIxAg7lMcrFQAqMmN97jkewyFxVEXCFw4ja2gvQ7PcYKFfcPBHW627K7x/SRgdRsnY5WQW7NEcRaeG4zu89flDrYDrI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.31.50.218?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.31.50.218 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2006 21:37:04 -0000 Message-ID: <444E96A1.3010307@rogers.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:37:37 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20060424181531.GA13774@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425001751.S44618@woozle.rinet.ru> <20060424202859.GA18457@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425004405.G44618@woozle.rinet.ru> <20060424205026.GA18844@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425134418.J57625@woozle.rinet.ru> <20060425080932.1rv9hq0rcws4wc84@www.wolves.k12.mo.us> <20060425162656.GC54244@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425213313.R71240@woozle.rinet.ru> <444E8E48.8040008@rogers.com> <20060425211417.GA58948@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060425211417.GA58948@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, Dmitry Morozovsky Subject: Re: fsck_ufs locked in snaplk X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:37:06 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > This is true, but I hope you recognise that a good part of the > responsibility for this falls on the users when asked to test proposed > fixes. If the developers are not aware of remaining problems they > can't reasonably be expected to fix them :-) > Indeed, but the developers should also realize that a lot of users have servers in production and can not afford the downtime, or simply don't have the resources to test. I think the developers should also spend a little more time doing more extensive testing of their own code.