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Date:      Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:02:16 -0400
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls
Message-ID:  <7A2A6548-BADA-40AE-879E-7DE294023A12@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVdze=pe-x_ACX0BgwK3UNDgxSp_wyyLNTAoxE3Ons8Xgg@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <C88CB169-12FE-4692-92AA-5C7D41BB61DF@FreeBSD.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <CAG=rPVd93Q18aYnSGSf_QH4C08RCq5wsdKQSNYTgWQ2huTbUHQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAG=rPVfrM9SnqRU-g=L6Y39GM2yEd%2Bt6=UFhggauu0s3HJvpYw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomBOpOTeiF=toKFVRFavwFJg_js_O68z_%2B_xDxguqyB2g@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmokSu_oSiNNZKAGoof5d7SaAnO8F3TWjsxojQz5-7x1y=A@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVdze=pe-x_ACX0BgwK3UNDgxSp_wyyLNTAoxE3Ons8Xgg@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's
> > approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose
> > entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each year.
> 
> (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd boots,
> runs and keeps running on them.0
> 
> You can buy em too, some of them even under $60.
> 
> Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo?

Yes. The root image sizes for a reasonable subset of the system now exceeds
the flash that I have on my embedded arm boards. I have to spill over onto
the SD card if I want to make progress. Some trimming could be done, but 11
images are quite a bit bigger than 10 images for the same software.

Warner


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