From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 19:11:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5D55B107F for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 19:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound4s.ore.mailhop.org (outbound4s.ore.mailhop.org [54.185.97.28]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FD3Kd15JWz3qgs for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 19:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1617563459; cv=none; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; b=TavukzxlFdE98+DqytxY5yntu6De7J/SHINk7wqxBI65ihYe3wh+uT0xq4teB5NCbSViG5jtjJNAE oHCWauZZhsGU/+o9ccP+TBGy6FvuRGxR/Mxvw3ExC3ITOGVWlL92HVg2k7tzC72xw13IVEyhaG4UMT iyaIDGxIRfneB3K7WNztjyrcxQ+YoR4cnTMSaHKbrwAGlyQjOWkajSU6mdXzs4XUDtAncJu+ll3xof mjUjMdBc4gM4TDQqZCJw868CShJqehcxlFjLI/USD380eZtDAsoblHBIz13MUEmP1eRH+UyWlnpo1t 6mODA4aaMOTa1lyY9c7F+8sT0tlUKgQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:dkim-signature:from; bh=lp+Wb878R9hlvPxbK0cUbeiVx1JOPu1di5PMuh2xDII=; b=bpsVegaScSS25aBZMSMgNTF6zfQ2KWYM4tVE9LEIktsui5c1YUFnvJFnyUyX7MjfT7aKLkpcZn118 rWRxcXahFTA6QwpeLBjbUHg72SXL0q8xQMn85ztwXXaJ7aeib26ElKfF+plCG543qyWgNksxFWk8w5 F87NXXg/QWE9a0fruDbNQ4xL81Bv12my0nx+JNRQgXkuOzVu+VuvTS0b+02XxApTpNfo4La03aGIzX NpkluOW+zLmoGqaT7Mus8HC5XkRJwdIA4SYiqxeLkPm8S0BcMboGBxYzsw100xMDWPUyG0D+tU3vSJ Hc+YW+RcMEoIRrBZACbsGC1/hBGm1Ow== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; outbound4.ore.mailhop.org; spf=softfail smtp.mailfrom=freebsd.org smtp.remote-ip=67.177.211.60; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org; arc=none header.oldest-pass=0; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=dkim-high; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=lp+Wb878R9hlvPxbK0cUbeiVx1JOPu1di5PMuh2xDII=; b=jJxyzU6AWf6hVxLy8CYAs9WgPBuFJE7dFvi18lE2SP8l/N9ehbhbC/El6bmjmfLb99SNoNzy9ivFY jYOxYBwEGgggA2gikBfnYUmIFyeUjA0Q53Tj3JeGq3frm8IPznmkYg9Pu/VJ/b5zjQSNALM1miALC5 /xhEfZJuRaPlMFfXbjSX9x3PLrXl8L6J15epoGpeMRe6V8/s2AGKA2/+lnzOxVWN1vl2/3gjLKCG/8 OwqR4A5RWXisHDdnThk+iu02E4+Ki4SZY7IcugW+scyGhuS4IwG6Y+rs1ZrNa72RVIWSe0BBN9HZvQ Gpe5vIVMy0EcI8SxVIYSeMkFLNcpxzw== X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: 7c967934-9579-11eb-a601-89389772cfc7 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (c-67-177-211-60.hsd1.co.comcast.net [67.177.211.60]) by outbound4.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 7c967934-9579-11eb-a601-89389772cfc7; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 134JAvHD084191; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 13:10:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? From: Ian Lepore To: Ed Maste , freebsd-stable stable Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:10:57 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FD3Kd15JWz3qgs X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:54.184.0.0/15, country:US]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:11:01 -0000 On Sat, 2021-04-03 at 16:39 -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it > dropped > off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it > had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. > > I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? > I would find the removal of ftpd to be very inconvenient unless there was a port/pkg to install it from. If there is a port, it would only be useful if I could set PREFIX=/usr when building/installing it, so that its behavior when installed as a port/pkg would be identical to how it was when it was part of base (in terms of where its config files are located). -- Ian