From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 24 06:02:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03408 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdx1.world.net (pdx1.world.net [192.243.32.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03379 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suburbia.net (suburbia.net [203.4.184.1]) by pdx1.world.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08536; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (proff@localhost) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) id XAA01510; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:00:47 +1000 From: Julian Assange Message-Id: <199609241300.XAA01510@suburbia.net> Subject: Re: cvsup - the next generation multi purpose netw. distrib. system (even for news ?!) To: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:00:47 +1000 (EST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199609241031.FAA18112@bonkers.taronga.com> from "Peter da Silva" at Sep 24, 96 05:31:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > John Polstra wrote: > >One other point about replacing NNTP with CVSup is that, politically, > >it would probably never happen. NNTP, with all its flaws, is the > >universal standard. It would take a lot to get people to start > >using anything different. I think that, in the short term, people will > >move toward a streaming version of NNTP. In the longer term, the whole > >netnews system will have to be replaced with something radically > >different. > > But every news transport link is point to point, and a LOT of places > use things other than NNTP server mode. I use UUCP and NNTP reader > mode, for example, and most ISPs would rather feed their corporate > clients with something the *clients* can control so they don't have > to spend support hours patching newsfeeds files. I'm working on a peerless, multi-view, bomb proof, authenticated object distribution store (working name "The Ring"), that is in many respects similar to to news. Its err, kind of a replacement for dns and protocol dependent references, organising long lived information into subject domains, instead of administrative domains. That's the theory anyway ;) Anyone wanting to be involved in such a project, drop me a line. -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis, _God in the Dock_ +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+ |Julian Assange RSO | PO Box 2031 BARKER | Secret Analytic Guy Union | |proff@suburbia.net | VIC 3122 AUSTRALIA | finger for PGP key hash ID = | |proff@gnu.ai.mit.edu | FAX +61-3-98199066 | 0619737CCC143F6DEA73E27378933690 | +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+