From owner-freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Wed Mar 16 05:08:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ipfw@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5647FAD25B5 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A302A7A; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u2FFkQnP010580; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 02:46:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 02:46:26 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: bycn82@dragonflybsd.org cc: Julian Elischer , "freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org" , Kulamani Sethi Subject: Re: Network goes down when installing ipfw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160316015635.A61428@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <56E5F9CD.7080200@freebsd.org> <56E5FA38.20305@freebsd.org> <20160314145020.G61428@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFW Technical Discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:08:16 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:24:21 +0800, Bill Yuan wrote: > On Monday, March 14, 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 07:39:36 +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > On 14/03/2016 7:37 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > On 11/03/2016 8:46 PM, Kulamani Sethi wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > I am using ipfw3. When i am installing ipfw driver in > > windows-7 > > > > > machine the network goes down. If uninstall that driver again then > > > > > network > > > > > comes automatically. That means ipfw driver does not support. > > > > > > > > > > I have also digitally signed by Microsoft kernel mode > > > > > signing > > > > > process for authenticate the publisher. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Process of installing: Local Area Connection-> properties -> > > Install -> > > > > > service -> Add ->OK (I can also see there message by system "Driver > > > > > digitally signed") > > > > > > > > this is amusing.. Ipfw on windows? I never knew of this.. > > > > > > > > can you send us all the links to this project? > > > never mind: > > > > > > google to the rescue: > > > > > > http://wipfw.sourceforge.net/ > > > > What's amazing is that we - you and I, anyway - have never heard of it. > > > > And that it goes back to 2005, and apart from fwd, seems to follow ipfw > > semantics, up to 2011 anyway. Kudos to the porters, fitting it into a > > Wimdows kernel environment. A gui even, pretty standard 'man ipfw' > > docs, properly attributed authorship .. > > > > "IPFW ported to Windows® by Ruslan Staritsin and Vladislav Goncharov." > > > > As for Kulamani's problem, I wonder if it needs some technique roughly > > equivalent to that needed when loading ipfw over a remote connection: > > > > # kldload ipfw && ipfw add 65000 allow ip from any to any > > > > but I really shouldn't try second-guessing ANYTHING to do with Windows, > > which always seems to hate me even more than the reverse :) > > > > > > > Could anyone please help me for this issue. Thanks in advance. > > > > From the Contacts page on SF: "If you have any questions about this > > project, please email at iptables@mail.ru " > Oh please lah. it is not ipfw3 Well Bill, it's gotten harder to tell what is meant by 'ipfw3'. I spent - hopefully not wasted - several hours digging around today, trying to ease my own confusion, and I've kept half an eye on this for years. Luigi and colleagues first released versions if ipfw+dummynet under the name ipfw3 in early 2010 as near as I can tell. The naming is explained in the README at https://github.com/luigirizzo/dummynet which includes versions for Linux (2.4 and 2.6 at that time), OpenWRT and yes, Windows. Several other releases are at http://info.iet.unipi.it/~marta/dummynet/ all using the ipfw3 moniker. So perhaps that is the ipfw3 Kulamani is talking about, not wipfw? Further, https://github.com/luigirizzo/dummynet/blob/master/NOTES acknowledges that the windows port was originally begun from wipfw. If you google "ipfw3" (including quotes) you'll find references to your ipfw3 for dragonflyBSD, and plenty of references to *ipfw3.* archives of ipfw + dummynet sources and binaries as used with various Linux distros, questions about mostly the latter on lots of forums and lists .. This one is a good browse starting point, moving down or up the tree: https://www.cct.lsu.edu/~xuelin/dummynet/20100319-ipfw3/ipfw3/ for an early version. So I have to wonder whether you did much research before choosing a name for a different implementation? I guess that's too late to fix now, but let's try to be clear about differentiating two quite different things. cheers, Ian