From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 17:23:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22615 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22592 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19758; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:33 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA08820; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411095232.22376@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Christopher R. Maden" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100250.WAA02788@crism.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100250.WAA02788@crism.ne.mediaone.net>; from Christopher R. Maden on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:50:11PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 22:50:11 -0400, Christopher R. Maden wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I was going to send this just to Greg, but my suggestions at the end > are possibly useful to the group at large. > > [Greg Lehey] >> Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried >> to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that >> resists. I suspect it's not Tim (who lives in California), but >> somebody on the East Coast. > > Is this one of those weird west coast/east coast UNIX things? You'd > think we were rappers; I've never understood it. Don't look at me, I'm on the South Coast. > Tim has allegedly resisted proposals for FreeBSD books; the only two > FreeBSD users I *know* of at O'Reilly are on the east coast. Names? I know Andy Oram is favourable towards it, but Frank Willison (Editor in chief) obviously is not. I asked Andy about this matter, and he said that he hadn't been involved, and that it wouldn't make any sense to comment. > Most of the directional decisions happen on the west coast; the > Cambridge office is almost exclusively production staff, though there > are some marketing people and editors. Interesting. That's not the impression I have had. Sure, Tim makes his decisions in Sebastopol, but I thought most of the other stuff happened in Cambridge. Of course, things could have changed. They have expanded a lot in Sebastopol since the first time I was there. >> I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing >> their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT >> crowd. I'm surprised they even had this "summit". > > I disagree with that. My current project is the _UNIX Power Library_, > a CD of the six most popular UNIX books (Power Tools, vi, ksh, sed & > awk, UNIX Nut, and Learning UNIX) along with the Power Tools > software. Interesting. But that's nothing new except for the packaging. > I'd say the current focus is more on Web stuff like Perl, Java, HTML, > JavaScript, and XML. The focus of the Windows stuff is one I don't > mind, and my home is Microsoft-free. I like the thurst of the > "Annoyances" series. If ORA had kept its commitment to UNIX, I wouldn't have worried so much about the Microsoft books. I'm currently (too slowly) writing a book about debugging for ORA. One of the things that Andy asked me was to include NT. I can understand the request, but I don't know enough about NT to be able to write anything useful. > The main problem is that Tim doesn't see that there's a market for > FreeBSD books, and he *is* in business to make money. That's a reasonable statement. > Even better, if there's a specific book you think needs writing, > *write it*. I did :-( Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message