From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 03:14:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041BB37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.us2.messagingengine.com (ny2.fastmail.fm [66.111.4.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9255343F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) by server2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD06FF24; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.fastmail.fm) by messagingengine.com with SMTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:28 -0400 X-Epoch: 1056104068 X-Sasl-enc: x9MbcQj3cDdIT2WWBwlr6Q Received: from dialup-67.74.79.183.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net (dialup-67.74.79.183.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.183]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8110368E7; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:24 -0400 (EDT) To: sweetleaf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030620040103.314546eb.sweetleaf@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed From: Jud MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20030620040103.314546eb.sweetleaf@myrealbox.com> User-Agent: Opera7.11/Win32 M2 build 2880 Subject: Re: good browser and java combo? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:14:32 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf wrote: > I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to > do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the > chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current > java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to > switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a > solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java > support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its > life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer > is actually better at java then unix. > > Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that > work with java? > > Thanks in ./adv Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite; latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days). I can at least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM. Because of IE's market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with IE's non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard versions. Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE browser will have difficulty on many "Java" Web sites because it's not using IE's virtual machine. Jud